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#21 · (Edited)
SixG17s said:
That's really a bad idea...
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Seriously... ?!?!

So, learning 'one-handed' pistol manipulation is 'bad'?

You've got to be BS'ing me! :eek:

Some people simply don't have the strength or can tolerate the pain of certain physical motions... regardless of how easily those of us that can actually perform the task are able to perform it.

(My wife and I have an elderly parent living with us... for whom we've had to develop 'alternative' ways of accomplishing daily tasks. So, suggesting that a 'different' way of doing something is a 'bad' idea is simply... well... arrogant and insulting.)

One-handed pistol manipulation with standard Glock sights is not only possible, but is something I (and I'm guessing... thousands of others) practice routinely.

Far from a 'bad' idea... its a GREAT idea! Not just for those with lesser strength, but for everyone.

Gun Manipulation One-Handed, Now It's Even!
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS6itH6E_oQ[/ame]

Regards,

Bob
 
#22 · (Edited)
Bob, I've spent a great deal of time in competition and training, over 4 decades, both at the academy and private. One handed weapon manipulation is a very advanced technique. I've seen 2 accidental shootings that way, plus several DQ's at IDPA matches, and would never recommend it for anyone with physical limitations. And in reality, if you ever needed to crank a gun with one hand, most likely you would have been injured, as in shot in the hands, have dropped the gun to the ground, and would need to pick it up with a bloodied right hand. Not so easy. We used to run that drill in advanced handgun, where you had to pick up the gun from a bucket of soapy water. Unless you have right angle sights, like BattleHooks, it's much more difficult than it looks, especially for those who suffer chronic arthritis. Your range of motion is limited, along with your hand strength.

Do you practice that technique with OEM sights? Because they are tapered, it's far to easy to slip off. Plus in Franks case, I believe it is only for the purpose of loading his CCW gun.

Curious as to why the guy in the video is wearing an IWB holster, but not concealed...
 
#24 · (Edited)
SixG17s said:
Bob, I've spent a great deal of time in competition and training, over 4 decades, both at the academy and private. One handed weapon manipulation is a very advanced technique. I've seen 2 accidental shootings that way, plus several DQ's at IDPA matches, and would never recommend it for anyone with physical limitations. And in reality, if you ever needed to crank a gun with one hand, most likely you would have been injured, as in shot in the hands, have dropped the gun to the ground, and would need to pick it up with a bloodied right hand. Not so easy. We used to run that drill in advanced handgun, where you had to pick up the gun from a bucket of soapy water. Unless you have right angle sights, like BattleHooks, it's much more difficult than it looks, especially for those who suffer chronic arthritis. Your range of motion is limited, along with your hand strength.
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Quite honestly, it doesn't matter to me what you would recommend. What matters to me is what safely works for those that need to perform a specific task.

Safely racking the slide can be accomplished with many techniques... your 'experience' notwithstanding.

As I mentioned, racking the slide with the standard OEM Glock rear sights is routinely practiced by many... including me... including those with 'lesser' strength... and it's NOT more difficult than it looks. As with all techniques, it must be understood and practiced.

To demand that those who simply cannot rack an automatic pistol do so, without consideration of their limitations and possible remedies, is arrogant, insensitive, and irresponsible.

Safety is paramount... but so is responsible counsel and instruction.

Regards,

Bob
 
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Bob, so you don't use the internet technique you posted, I thought as much. You need to spend more time at the range and less time at the computer. Teaching a frail person that method is irresponsible. So I made this video just for Frank, was going to wait until the weekly USPSA match, but no reason to. Forgot to mount the camera upright but doesn't matter.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmjpvuwzDDc[/ame]
 
#26 · (Edited)
SixG17s said:
Bob, so you don't use the internet technique you posted...
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Why do you assume that... ? :confused:

Not only do I use the techniques illustrated in the videos, I practice numerous other techniques as well.

Self defense techniques are limited only by the small minded.

My instructors taught me that square range techniques will get me killed... and to practice every 'outside the box' technique that I can safely practice... then I just might stay alive during a gunfight.

So... how many ways can I rack a pistol?

I'll never tell... ;)

Bob :rayof:

By the way... I'd like to get to the range more often, but the best I can do at the moment is two 4 hour, 600 round sessions a month. Sorry! (But, I practice 'dry fire' drills every day. Does that count?) :eek:
 
#27 ·
So, Bob, post a video of how you crank a Glock. Not someone else, your video. It's pretty easy, save the video your computer and upload it to YouTube, so everyone can see it. I like to see these numerous other techniques, after all, there has been nothing new in the last 50 years....

I forgot, did you say you are D class or C class USPSA? Doesn't matter, blowing off 600 rounds a month at a static target on a square range doesn't tell you much, does it? Not scored, or timed, no way to measure your ability against thousands of others.
 
#28 · (Edited)
SixG17s said:
So, Bob, post a video of how you crank a Glock. Not someone else, your video. It's pretty easy, save the video your computer and upload it to YouTube, so everyone can see it. I like to see these numerous other techniques, after all, there has been nothing new in the last 50 years....

I forgot, did you say you are D class or C class USPSA? Doesn't matter, blowing off 600 rounds a month at a static target on a square range doesn't tell you much, does it? Not scored, or timed, no way to measure your ability against thousands of others.
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Six,

This is becoming tiresome.

You're fascination with competitive shooting is fine... but it's not my focus.

USPSA competition is fun, but self defense shooting is serious... and they're not the same.

I watched your video. Yep! You can rack a pistol. Very good!

I'll not 'debate' with you further.

Bob
 
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