Why I carry - My story

As a new father, and a long time member of law enforcement the reality of situations like this is all too present and real. Your daughter and family have my deepest condolences and I wish her all the help she needs to move forward with her life. Where in MI was this? If it was GR, and you wish to disclose, PM me the last names of the dirtbags. I have over 3,000 arrests in GR and I am wondering if I had any run ins with them. There were a few that got rough, we can only hope they are on that list.

Should she ever purchase a gun and wish to customize it (pink, for example) let me know, hers will be on the house.

 

Oddball Gunner thank you and thank your daughter for sharing her story. I work at a small private university and unfortunately see all to frequently acts of violence against young women (after the fact of course). The physical and emotional trauma your daughter, her friend and the young ladies at school are forced to deal with is terrible. It takes a strong woman (or man) of any age to come back from a violent crime. My prayers are with you an your loved ones.

 

My condolences to you and your family. 11-40 years!!!! Not enough, I belief that the man should have been shot, magazine emptied, weapon reloaded, and shot up some more!!!! Then be left to bleed to death while the cops are on the way. Damned pathetic low lifes. Anyway, calming down now. We never know when these things will happen, its our job to protect ourselves, my prayers will be with you.

 

I'm really disappointed they aren't on bond with any of my friends, would have been nice to cash in on my list of owed favors.

 

Wow, I'm not a father yet, havent had the blessing of becoming one. But as a former LEO, I did see a lot of cases similar to this. I cant begin to imagine the rage parents feel when something happens to their son/daughter.

There is a spanish (Dominican) movie based on a true story. Where a hitman accidentally shot a kid. The father then paid the authorities to charge him with a crime just so he can be in the same prison as his son's killer... After months of investigating, he died in a yard fight and never got revenge. Really tough to handle.

My respects to all moms/dads out there who would die & kill for their kids... Including my old man & lady!

 

I can only imagine what you are going thru Oddball, and I know that sympathy is the last thing you want.

As the father of two daughters (20 and 24), I have lived this nightmare for many years. We dedicate our lives to protecting those we love, and feel helpless (the term "impotent rage" comes to mind) when something or someone hurts them.

My eldest was in college when a serial rapist named James Biela victimized four (possibly six) college girls, choking them into unconciousness and then sexually abusing them. His last victim, Brianna Dennison, he kidnapped from an on-campus residence, and her body was found in an open field almost a month later. She had been sexually abused and then murdered.

One of his victims was a CCW holder, but because the law forbids her from bringing her firearm on campus, she was unarmed and unable to defend herself when Biela attacked her in the parking structure...the same parking structure that my daughter uses. She has led a campaign thru our local political system to draft and pass the Campus Protection Act, which has twice been struck down by our liberal state senate. Had she been allowed to carry, as her permit allowed, he would have been dead and Brianna Dennison would still be alive.

I sometimes think that for violent crimes we should return to Biblical terms of justice, but that shall never happen.

The only consolation you will have as a father and as a man, and a poor one it is, is that provided these animals get sent to adult prison and not juvenille prison, you can rest assured that "there goes Bubba's new girlfriend...."

My only hope is that their incarceration will be painful for them, and that when they get out, someone is there to knife them.

I pray that you and your daughter and her friend, would be able to live beyond this and not let it define the rest of your lives.

God Bless, my friend, God Bless....

 

My heart goes out to you and your family. It is such a cliche thing to say "What doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger." But, I hope you will take comfort in knowing that things could have been much worse and that the evil people of this world will get what they truly deserve in the next.

 

The judge should have the left the boy out back and let you have a go at him before he was taken to jail. This is a terrible situation, and I hope everything works out for the good of you and your family.

 

The evil in this world is stoppable. But when your own politicians are out to rape the people...what is left for the law abiding man? I would rather go to jail for carrying on campus than have to live through any of the above mentioned scenarios. Carrying concealed is not just something you do. There is immense responsibility and sobriety that goes along with this mindset. A level of responsibility that our politicians will NEVER understand. Police yourselves, the government is too busy living like fat cats off your backs.

 

Lets not make this thread political, that is clearly not it's purpose or direction.

Gunner,

Sorry we didn't get to meet up for a victory beer Monday. I'm thankful that the scumbag did not force your daughter and her friend on to the stand to relive their experiences publicly. They are both very brave and I wish them all the best going forward.

 

I have no words to express the emotion I felt reading this. I too have a daughter that is about to walk out into this vast world. I can't imagine what something like this is like, and am truly sorry your daughter went through this. As a father my heart goes out to your daughter her friend and your family. I am arming my daughter with pepper spray, a knife and as soon as she can get her CCW I WILL ADVOCATE TO HER THAT SHE GET IT! On campus or off defense is necessary! She is allowed to open carry in AZ but not on campus.... So knife and pepper spray will have to get her through the next 2 1/2 years... In the meantime training and vigilance!

 

for pepper spray I highly suggest FOX (Fox Labs). It is 5.2M SHU and one dab of that will stop anyone and anything. Sometimes it even leaves third degree chemical burns.

 

That is wonderful news!

She is a strong young woman. I'm sure you are very proud. Please tell her how much I admire her spirit and courage and wish her and her friend all the happiness in the world. They deserve it.

Also, let her know that if she is looking for some resources for women shooters/concealed carry holders, I would love to chat with her. I am no expert by any means, but would be happy to point her in the right direction. She is welcome to email me any time.

Best wishes to you all.

 

Excellent news!! Which school is she in? Baker has a great CJ program but only quarter credits. gRCC has great program with grpd

Tell her the honor is all mine. I think she will find great comfort in a firearm i would be proud to say i was the one who helped make it hers.

 

Read the article, didn't realize you were in front of Judge Leiber, good man. I have had the chance to speak to George off the record a few times, he is a very smart guy and does a good job.

 

That's great news OG. I am sure you are a very proud father. I am happy to see that you and your family may now be able to recover. As sad as it may be, I think that sometimes it takes a tragedy to inspire someone to greatness. Such as the case with your daughter. Having been through such an ordeal, she will be armed with the wisdom that comes from personal experience, to help people in her chosen profession. Godspeed to you and your family.

 

Oddball, My heart goes out to you and your family, I too have a family member that was raped and I know the hell that she is dealing with every day. I pray that she comes to terms with the fact that she did nothing wrong and he was simply the worst kind of animal on earth and no form of cruelty is too harsh for his death.

Rumor has it that rapists in prison are treated as party favors in the cells, I hope this is true so that he can live the pain and suffering that he inflicted on your daughter, over and over and over for the rest of his miserable life.