We The People.....2A

Discussion in 'Second Amendment & Legal' started by G22GEN4, Feb 24, 2012.

  1. G22GEN4

    G22GEN4 New Member

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    It sure would be nice to have an honest man that supports & upholds the American Constitution. For me, its Ron Paul for president. What's your opinion & why? Who would you chose & why?
     
  2. bhale187

    bhale187 New Member Supporter

    It would be nice to have POTUS that understands and respects the Constituion and the amendments, and I agree that Ron Paul is one of the very few politicians that does so. I think the problem with Ron Paul is that he does not speak as well as the other fork tongued candidates, and he is not taken seriously by the mainstream media that is so influencial in deciding the politics of the day.

    I wrote in Ron Paul last time, and I plan to do it again. Many people contend that this equates to voting for the current POTUS. Every person is entitled to their opinion on such matters, but in the end I refuse to vote for the lesser of 2 evils.
     

  3. iGlock

    iGlock Lead Farmer

    Ron Paul 2012!
     
  4. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate, IMHO, that has integrity. He gets no respect because he is the only candidate trying to fix the broken machine...and the machine DON'T wanna get fixed. they are SO intimidated by him, and it HAS to be infuriating them he is hitting such great numbers, even though they are ACTIVELY blackballing him and putting him on ignore. All the media has put a hit on him, even as he consistently scores high and wins straw polls, and delegates (he's second in total delegates right now). He's the only candidate that ANY red blooded america could rally behind...He wants to fix the debt, and is the only candidate that has a plan to do it (trillion dollar cut in spending is awesome) He is a Constitution defender and believes in states rights and limited federal government....and a definite supporter of 2A. He appeals to fiscal conservatives (me) and Social liberals (me) because he's hands off...he doesn't believe in drugs and abortion, but is logical enough to support a State's right to enforce or not enforce...in other words, he will not force anybody to his morals...making him the most moral man in politics. a true breath of fresh air. As much as I loathe our current POTUS, it is evidently clear that the other GOP candidates are not much better...Romney is a do what ever I can to stay in politics guy, and gave us the blue print for Obamacare...and he's passed plenty of anti-gun legislation...then we have Gingrich, a dude that has his fingers in so much crony capitalist crap he clearly cannot be trusted...and finally, Santorum...TRULY a scary candidate...he's a very thinly disguised theocrat warhawk that subscribes to force.
    Free Markets are the answer to fixing this fiscal mess, not Keynesian government spending. Only Ron Paul sees that.
     
  5. BLCKWLF

    BLCKWLF GrassHopper

    Santorum. A+ NRA rating. Stands firm on his words.
     
  6. american lockpicker

    american lockpicker New Member

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    Obama is a pretty good choice for me. I'll admit I had little faith in him to leave our 2nd amendment rights alone when he was elected but he suprised me. He has earned my vote.
     
  7. Magnum27

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    Obama is brutal. I have no idea why you have his disgusting pic in your avatar. What do you think he has done well?
     
  8. ckuenzer331

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    He's the guy I'm voting for and my wife is a volunteer for his campaign... One big thing that really set my mind for sure with Rick... He can admit his mistakes and can genuinely apologize...
     
  9. ckuenzer331

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    I would have asked, but you beat me to it.... Lol
     
  10. G22GEN4

    G22GEN4 New Member

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    Hell yeah bro!!!!
     
  11. G22GEN4

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    What else have u based ur decision on?
     
  12. G22GEN4

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    What else do u base ur decision on?
     
  13. ckuenzer331

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    His conservativeness... His dedication through example of improving the American family... I'd go on but I know how political chats go... If you want to learn more visit his website...
     
  14. BLCKWLF

    BLCKWLF GrassHopper

    He actually lost his seat in congress for sticking to his beliefs, specifically being pro-life. He is not one of those politicians who change their beliefs around just to get into office. He is who he says he is.
     
  15. ckuenzer331

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    That's exactly what I've learned about him!! Seems like a real straight shooter to me! Well as straight as a politician can be... Lol
     
  16. Ron Paul is Pro Life, nor is he a fan of same-sex marriage...he just doesn't force his beliefs on everyone like Santorum to the point of trying to mess with the Constitution to force his beliefs into Laws...and quite frankly, if abortion is really your only issue in American Politics, we're screwed. Abortion is purely a political football...a side show..the practice debate in High School. I prefer to talk substance, specifically how our leaders plan on fixing the fiscal nightmare they created. Our country now spends more money than the GPD, and it's going to destroy us if we don't fix it. We are on a suicidal path that will lead to changing the freedom landscape forever....why aren't we RAGING about the passing of the NDAA, which suspends Habeas Corpus, the foundation of freedom for Americans? Obama signed it (reluctantly he said, LMAO), and Santorum and Gingrich support it) We, the People, are giving up our freedoms to these power-mongers because we buy the fear-mongering they're selling without question, and Franklin said it best that "Those willing to give up freedom for security deserve neither."
    I cannot tell a difference between any of the candidates and Obama, other than the differences that ultimately do NOT make a difference other than semantics, except Ron Paul..the ONLY stand out that Consistently supports the Fabric of America....Our Constitution, good or bad. the Constitution supports the Individual over the tyranny of the masses...I don't support smoking pot, but I will defend the rights of others to do it...same with Abortion, prostitution, or even religious wackos as long as they do not hurt anyone (strong exception to the Fred Phelps protests at funerals, I am part of the Patriot Guard riders that ensure idiots like the Phelps followers do NOT interfer with the dignity of our freedom defenders ultimate sacrifice).
     
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  17. BLCKWLF

    BLCKWLF GrassHopper

    Force? You mean stand up for their beliefs? He didn't force anything on anyone, they forced him out of office because of his beliefs. He didn't change his mind on the issue. He didn't back down.
     
  18. Bearlaker

    Bearlaker Member Supporter

    If a man is honest, he won't be elected POTUS. He will follow orders.
    Ron Paul, I think is honest, but he has no chance. Do you think the big money wants a guy who is certain to cut into their bottom lines? And his ideas of no regulating Wall ST. and the Banks, well, we saw in "08 what the outcome is when you just let the children play.
    Forgive me, I'm new here.
     
  19. His goal was/is to make Abortion illegal, no? Thus, he forces (via legislation) HIS morals, and the morals of the extreme religious right, contrary to the Constitution, onto others. You do NOT have to change your mind on the issue...Ron Paul has not, but he also knows not to force his morals on others, which is too tempting to do for most politicians, especially theocratic leaders like Santorum. I have not heard one good idea other than talking points from the Santorum camp. He is VERY clear on his ideology, and will definitely garner the extreme right vote, but he has no clear direction...have you watched the debates at all? I watch them all, looking for solutions...Cain had a plan, even though it was stupid... Gingrich has an outline, but it is the exact outline he's always had, and still caters to crony capitalism in the guise of free markets...Romney is as middle of the road do-nothing as I've ever seen, and it's just so he can get elected....well, go to his page and the first two statments on issues are all about destroying Iran, and denying rights to Gays...theocratic warhawks become the very tyrannical despots they say they despise....He's a dangerous man for American Freedom lovers.
     
  20. Crony Capitalism is what happened in 08...had NOTHING to do with de-regulation...and the real issues are NOT on Wallstreet, contrary to the media-focus, it's about the small and medium sized business that truly carry the economy. With that said, your points are valid...BIG business does not want him, because he wants to audit the FED (which has become a puppet of big business) and he wants the restore the Constitution (which has been exploited and trampled by big government) the internet is really messing up the big media/government info machine and Ron Paul's message is getting out to the people. Even though he's a Republican, his logic resonates on both sides of the political isle. People have seen what big-government is doing to this country, and are worried...as they should be...Socialism doesn't happen over night...it's like boiling a live frog...by the time the forg realizes he's in hot water, it's too late...and that is exactly what's been happening to America ever since FDR, and if we all don't get out of this boiling water, we're another boiled frog. I cannot stand the Voting for the lesser of 2 evils analogy, it's a defeated, waste of vote.