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I happen to be a new glock owner and new to the forum. I have a Glock 27 3rd gen I was wonder as far as the tungsten guide rods are concerned do the help in reducing muzzle flip. I'm not concerned about the plastic guide rod failing just trying to. Reduce recoil without increasing spring weight. Also if anyone has one of the tungsten guide rod I can't seem to find a weight on one. Thanks
 

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Just a side note for less experienced readers.

Recoil doesn't change, it's a measure of force. The powder charge pushes against the breach of the gun in one direction and against the bullet 180 degrees in the other direction. Recoil is effectively just Force = mass (bullet) * acceleration (gas expansion). Other factors come into play such as mass of the gun, which is why different guns feel different when firing.

But you're correct in the 'perceived reduction in muzzle flip'.

That's what the marketing materials call it, because there is no known way to measure it subjectively against all known firearm makes/models and all known loads of ammunition. As well, the muzzle flip is unique to each person: grip, strength, technique, etc, all have an impact on perceived flip.

That said, pure physics says a heavier object further away (muzzle) on a perpendicular plane along the axis of the fulcrum (wrist) will require more force to move, implying a heavy RSA made of materials like tungsten or steel will negate some of the forces that drive the muzzle flip.

Additionally Glocks are preferred over other brands because the barrel is lower and closer to the axis of the forearm, reducing the forces need to offset the muzzle flip. Because its not perfectly aligned with the axis, there will be some vertical forces acting on the muzzle (lever) where the wrist (or poor grip) would be the fulcrum.

Most revolvers have more muzzle flip that most automatics because of the height of the barrel, using the center of the wrist as a measuring point.

An 'ideal' (theoretical) firearm would have the breach and muzzle perfectly aligned with the center of the fist, and if the wrist is perfectly aligned with the axis of the forearm there would be, effectively, zero muzzle lift, and the recoil would be offset by the added mass of the 'perfectly aligned' hand, wrist and forearm of the shooter.
 

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Thanks PettyOfficer for the detailed awnser I think that gives me some good perspective. I believe some more drills and training may be in order with my new glock then I may give the tungsten a try. Any personal opinions on aftermarket improvements to the glock subcompacts?
 

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If I had a spare $60 + tax & shipping, I'd have a tungsten RSA with stock weight spring in my G30: I have strong wrists but get wicked muzzle flip, my reacquisition time is slow (but that's not uncommon for sub/compact .45s).
 

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PettyOfficer said:
If I had a spare $60 + tax & shipping, I'd have a tungsten RSA with stock weight spring in my G30: I have strong wrists but get wicked muzzle flip, my reacquisition time is slow (but that's not uncommon for sub/compact .45s).
I just ordered one for mine :)
 

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Looks like this is an ancient thread... last post was 9 years ago. But I’ll add my 2 cents only because I’ve gone down the tungsten guiderod rabbit hole.
Short version: I bought and ran a tungsten RSA for my G43 from The Glockstore about 2 years ago. It made a big difference in the perceived recoil feel. So I kept it in my 43 for around a year, maybe longer. But I ditched it and went back to running OEM recoil spring assemblies (RSA’s) because while the tungsten rod was indeed heavier than the OEM one, the springs are the same springs you get with OEM. And guess what... they get tired and weak just like the OEM springs, and the springs are what determines the lifespan of a Glock RSA. I ended up replacing the expensive RSA with an OEM one and bought 3 or 4 spares to keep in my spare parts kit.
YMMV, but I decided to run Glock parts on my Glocks and work on fundamentals like grip and stance. For the price of one tungsten RSA I could have purchased maybe four OEM ones.
 
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I happen to be a new glock owner and new to the forum. I have a Glock 27 3rd gen I was wonder as far as the tungsten guide rods are concerned do the help in reducing muzzle flip. I'm not concerned about the plastic guide rod failing just trying to. Reduce recoil without increasing spring weight. Also if anyone has one of the tungsten guide rod I can't seem to find a weight on one. Thanks
If it’s for a Glock your gonna carry I’d keep it oem. Especially since it’s a Dual Recoil Spring Assembly. FWIW.
 

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Save your money. Proper grip will help control muzzle flip much better than any money spent on aftermarket parts.
 
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