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Critics are lashing out after a man carrying a concealed pistol stopped a mass shooting at an Indiana shopping mall, arguing the man should not be called a "Good Samaritan."
"The term, ‘Good Samaritan’ came from a Bible passage of a man from Samaria who stopped on the side of the road to help a man who was injured and ignored," wrote CBS4 traffic anchor Justin Kollar on Twitter Monday. "I cannot believe we live in a world where the term can equally apply to someone killing someone… my God."
Kollar's comment comes after a gunman opened fire at a suburban Indianapolis shopping mall on Sunday, killing three people before he was gunned down by a man legally carrying a pistol, according to police. Reports on Monday found that the man who put a halt to the shooting was actually in violation of Greenwood Park Mall policy, which bans the carry of weapons in its facility.
Greenwood Mayor Mark Myers credited the man with saving several lives by killing the shooter, saying they were grateful for his "quick action and heroism."

"Someone we are calling the ‘Good Samaritan’ was able to shoot the assailant and stop further bloodshed," Meyers said in a statement. "This person saved lives tonight. On behalf of the City of Greenwood, I am grateful for his quick action and heroism in this situation."
But some critics joined Kollar in criticizing the man's actions despite him allegedly putting a stop to the mass shooting.
"The Good Samaritan paid for an unknown immigrant's health care out of pocket," comedian John Fugelsang wrote on Twitter. "The Good Samaritan did not shoot anyone. Jesus was not a fan of killing for any reason, including self-defense. But if these ammosexuals had ever read the Bible, they couldn't support the GOP or NRA."
"I don’t know who needs to hear this but when a 22-year-old illegally brings a loaded gun into a mall and kills a mass shooter armed with an AR-15 after he already killed three people and wounded others is not a ringing endorsement of our implementation of the Second Amendment," Moms Demand Action Founder Shannon Watts said on Twitter.
But despite the man's apparent lack of regard for mall rules, his actions were also praised by Greenwood Park Mall representatives.
"We grieve for the victims of yesterday’s horrific tragedy in Greenwood. Violence has no place in this or any other community. We are grateful for the strong response of the first responders, including the heroic actions of the Good Samaritan who stopped the suspect," a mall spokesperson said.

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But if these ammosexuals had ever read the Bible, they couldn't support the GOP or NRA."
Seriously? I bet these morons never read it either.
They always claim "Thou shalt not kill" is a commandment, but the text (translated from the original scrolls) is "Thou shal not commit murder", which is the unjustified taking of life.

There are plenty of verses that are "self defense" oriented. An old pastor I had did a whole sermon on those when some blue hairs got all bent out of shape when they found out he had a concealed permit and carried in church.
 

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In 2008 the Dalai Lama, who is is likely the greatest advocate of nonviolence, made a comment on self defense, "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun. Not at the head, where a fatal wound might result. But at some other body part, such as a leg."
I agree with his logic but I'd have to fudge a bit on shot placement and either go for center mass or groin area. :)
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In 2008 the Dalai Lama, who is is likely the greatest advocate of nonviolence, made a comment on self defense, "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun. Not at the head, where a fatal wound might result. But at some other body part, such as a leg."
I agree with his logic but I'd have to fudge a bit on shot placement and either go for center mass or groin area. :)
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Training ingrained says two to the lower panel followed by one to the upper panel .
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In 2008 the Dalai Lama, who is is likely the greatest advocate of nonviolence, made a comment on self defense, "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun. Not at the head, where a fatal wound might result. But at some other body part, such as a leg."
I agree with his logic but I'd have to fudge a bit on shot placement and either go for center mass or groin area. :)
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Yeah, you can't expect the Dalai Lama to be an expert on the defensive use of guns ... I don't think you'll ever run into him at your local range, lol. His point is well taken though.

That said 22 year old Elisjah Dicken is a hero and a pretty good shooter as well, shooting from 40 yards at the gunman with a handgun, while taking cover behind a pillar, and while motioning people in the food mall to get behind him. Good training and instincts.

Sadly, this is an exception rather than the rule. According to research by the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center (ALERRT) of Texas State University, active shooters are stopped by bystanders in only 16% of all shootings, mostly by physically subduing him (or her), not by shooting with a gun. Statistically the 'good guy with the gun' is pretty rare. See all the numbers in the link below.

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This is the website of ALERRT:

Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training: Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training

They also have a detailed report on the Uvalde school shooting and what could have been done differently (see pages 13 and following). It doesn't make for pretty reading.
 

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After the one to the upper panel it's usually over as the body fails to function without that upper panel.
Yea, it works but a low percentage shot for a number of reasons. Not taught as a primary target for those reasons.
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"Sadly, this is an exception rather than the rule"
True but it's also an indication that more training is needed in the firearm owning community so that such instances are less of an exception.
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Yes, and you don't have to be master shooter level ... just basic training with reasonable accuracy and know what to do when the sh** hits the fan.

And probably the best thing is to prevent guns getting into the hands of mentally unstable people as this shooter was (according to news reports he lost his job and was getting evicted - reading between the lines, he was probably losing it mentally). He may have gotten his guns a long time ago, legally. That's really a timebomb: a. mentally unstable guy and b. guns. And all this is totally legal, we're not talking about criminals. It's going to happen again, and again, and again, if the past is a prediction for the future. What can we do to stop this vicious circle?
 
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