This is a shame: Minn. Man: "Police Beat Me For Gun, Despite My Permit"

Discussion in 'Conceal & Open Carry' started by dwcfastrice, Jun 26, 2012.

  1. dwcfastrice

    dwcfastrice Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporting Member

  2. havasu

    havasu Well-Known Member Supporter

    Because this story is one sided (from the man's attorney) I will refrain from adding my comments.

  3. unit44justin

    unit44justin New Member

    To tell you the truth I wouldn't be surprised. Living in MN the Minneapolis PD doesn't have the best reputation with citizens or other departments.
  4. G-23

    G-23 Premium Member

    Can't help but wonder, "Can you CC in a nightclub there?"
  5. unit44justin

    unit44justin New Member

    You sure can, MN is a PTC state which means you can CC or OC. You can carry in a bar as well. You must have your PTC on your person when ever you have a firearm on your person, but you do not need to present it right away if stopped by an LEO. You cannot however carry if you are above a .04 BAC.

    In the news story it says that he went to jail but it never says what he when to jail for.

    I am on neither side but won't be surprised by the outcome whether it is against either party.
  6. G-23

    G-23 Premium Member

    Good to know, thanks.
    Guess we'll have to wait and see....
  7. iShoot

    iShoot New Member

    Like others have said, "there is probably more to the story". Why were the police stopping him anyway? They just happen to notice he was carrying as he was walking to his car? Something doesn't add up... They did certainly beat the crap out of the guy, I'd like to know why they felt that level of force was justified. Even though it's not against the law here in Minnesota to carry in a bar, I don't think it's worth the risk. He should have locked it up securely in his vehicle IMO.
  8. bhale187

    bhale187 New Member Supporter

    I sure hope video turns up either from the bystander or municipal street cameras; whatever the truth is, it needs to come out.
  9. unit44justin

    unit44justin New Member

    There was the bystander video in the news link, except it was really grainy and only showed the big bad police men standing over the guy. I am pretty sure a kindergartener could finger paint a flip book with better footage than what the bystander cellphone picked up.
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2012
  10. Levelcross

    Levelcross New Member

    While the story sounds bad, it is too one sided to say what happened. I can hear the cards being shuffled now.
  11. dwcfastrice

    dwcfastrice Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporting Member

    I'm sure this is one of those that will get lost in the shuffle where we never hear the full details since the news has moved on to a more sensational story.

    If he was fighting back since he was being "illegally" detained, then it would make sense that he was jailed for "Resisting".

    I agree, not a lot of detail, and only 1 sided, but what if what he says IS the whole truth?

  12. Bilge

    Bilge New Member

    I too would like to know that the probable cause was for stopping him. The presence of a gun does not constitute probable cause in a place where carry is permitted. It would be analogous to an officer pulling someone over because they saw them driving a car and the officer did not know if the driver was licensed.

    The story said he was jailed and not charged. So, my read on that is, they didn't have anything on him they thought would stick. Which, after that beating, is pretty shocking. I would think they would want to charge him with something, anything, to justify that.

    But, as others have said, there just isn't enough information to draw any solid conclusions. Perhaps one of the recorders from one of the officers will clear this all up. Then again, they may have all forgotten to turn on their recorders that night.

    I'm sure the officers in Hollywood Florida had wished this recording never happened (I love the "We'll do a little Walt Disney to protect the cop..." part at about 5:15):

  13. If 'multiple' cops were beating him, why does he only have one knot on his head?