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Just wondering if anyone has one of the Saiga box mag fed semi shotguns ?

We just had a 20ga become available and when inspecting found that sighting from end of butt stock to muzzle it zig-zags. Receiver/butt stock joint is angled and gas tube is not aligned with barrel. if you align the sights to get proper sight picture the horizontal axis of the receiver is cocked a bit off vertical.

Anybody ?
 

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bargeahead said:
Just wondering if anyone has one of the Saiga box mag fed semi shotguns ?

We just had a 20ga become available and when inspecting found that sighting from end of butt stock to muzzle it zig-zags. Receiver/butt stock joint is angled and gas tube is not aligned with barrel. if you align the sights to get proper sight picture the horizontal axis of the receiver is cocked a bit off vertical.

Anybody ?
I've never shot the 20, but I had the 12 as my first shotgun. AWESOME gun. The only problems I ever had with it is that it didn't really like federal birdshot. You know, the ones you can buy in boxes of 100 from federal. It didn't cycle very well, probably because it didn't have enough to cycle the bolt. But other than that, it was freakin sweet.
 

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I've never shot the 20, but I had the 12 as my first shotgun. AWESOME gun. The only problems I ever had with it is that it didn't really like federal birdshot. You know, the ones you can buy in boxes of 100 from federal. It didn't cycle very well, probably because it didn't have enough to cycle the bolt. But other than that, it was freakin sweet.
Thank you; we have a AK74 varient Saiga rifle which looks fine. We have replacement for the 20 coming and will compare. BTW, customer wants to equip with Slide-Fire...............hope we get to "test".
 

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Thank you; we have a AK74 varient Saiga rifle which looks fine. We have replacement for the 20 coming and will compare. BTW, customer wants to equip with Slide-Fire...............hope we get to "test".
I've always wanted to try one. But for three hundred bucks, I didn't find it worth it lol
 

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My brother has a .410 Saiga. It wouldn't cycle anything except slugs and buck. I took it to an AK specialist. Upon inspection he said the gas port wasn't drilled through basically making it a recoil operated shotgun. He said Quality control at Saiga was lacking and has seen a number of issues. Plus one of the factory mags was crap. To fix the problem was too expensive. So it's a slug and buck gun now.
 

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Well............shucks. Got the other Saiga 20 in today and same problem. Got a 410 also and looks fine. Must have been a problem on the 20 ga production line.
 

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Evidently the ruskies on the assembly line had too much or not enough vodka.
 

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Evidently the ruskies on the assembly line had too much or not enough vodka.
If this were still the cold war I would want only units produced on Wednesday LOL. Wait.....maybe it's still a good idea. Am wondering how to pronounce Izhmash anyway.
 

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My brother has a .410 Saiga. It wouldn't cycle anything except slugs and buck. I took it to an AK specialist. Upon inspection he said the gas port wasn't drilled through basically making it a recoil operated shotgun. He said Quality control at Saiga was lacking and has seen a number of issues. Plus one of the factory mags was crap. To fix the problem was too expensive. So it's a slug and buck gun now.
Has your brother considered explaining and sending it to Saiga to correct the faulty production? If it's stock, they should make it right.
 

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Need to see who the importer was. He bought it new at a gun show but lost the paperwork. I'll add it to the pile of guns that need to go back to manufacturers.
 

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My brother doesn't feel comfortable selling it without it being 100%.
 

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Danzig said:
My brother doesn't feel comfortable selling it without it being 100%.
Could be a good buy for someone who likes to tinker.
 

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My brother doesn't feel comfortable selling it without it being 100%.
That's the way we are. Both 20's are on their way back to the distributor. Can't blame the distributors; they get the guns in boxes and send the boxes out. I will say the importer should have noticed something when they serial numbered them.
 

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They are based on the AK47 so would need whatever a legal AK would need in Cali. Unless y'all have an outright ban or they have to be on an approved list.
 

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Are these Shot Guns legal in Ca?
I didn't want to copy/paste verbatium from atlanticfirearms but they have CA varient and describe the mods. It's basically the same as a CA compliant AR. Wow, and I think IL is bad.
 

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I didn't want to copy/paste verbatium from atlanticfirearms but they have CA varient and describe the mods. It's basically the same as a CA compliant AR. Wow, and I think IL is bad.
I think Illinois is only bad cause of no conceal carry. Other then that we are more gun friendly then California is. We have no "approve list". ;)
 

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I think Illinois is only bad cause of no conceal carry. Other then that we are more gun friendly then California is. We have no "approve list". ;)
You're absolutely right !! However, waiting for the next Madigan/Quinn shoe to fall.
 
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