problem with G21 sf

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firesupport

Discussion Starter · Mar 6, 2012 (Edited)

Hey out there, just got a new glock 21 sf from a local dealer. Here is the problem... loaded it with 13 in mag and one in pipe. Jammed, empty case was stuck in the top between the slide and barrel, but only just caught it. Figured it was new mag, new gun. Fired 200 rounds through it with no problems trying alternatly to load 14. Noticed i kept getting hit in the face and top of the head with shells. Figured may be normal. Went to the range today, 13 in mag one in pipe... same jam as the first time. Now im wondering what may be the problem... fired another 200 rounds 14 and 13 with no glich but still getting popped in the glasses by cases. Any ideas or similar problems? New here so howdy to everyone as well

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firesupport

Discussion Starter · #2 · Mar 6, 2012

ammo

forgot to mention i used hornady 185 grain ftx, and federal 230 grain ball...the jams happened with the ball

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Webphisher

· #3 · Mar 6, 2012

It takes a good 500 rounds minimum for the shells to start ejecting right. That's coming to get hit in the head. Wear a hat and you'll stop noticing it lol. As for the jams it might be the mags springs are still tight. Store each mag with 13 in them for a week. They should soften up. It's either that it you are limp wristing and the slide isn't getting enough recoil to eject.

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firesupport

Discussion Starter · #4 · Mar 6, 2012

Thanks for the help, i will keep blasting and see if i have any more problems. Storing in the nightstand with 12 in the mag and one in the pipe for the time being lol.

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firsttimer

· #5 · Mar 6, 2012 (Edited)

Good luck with your 21SF. Factory is pretty good with responding to problems.

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voyager4520

· #6 · Mar 6, 2012

If the problem continues you might try replacing the extractor with a new one. I don't know about G21/30 or G20/29 extractors, but the recent production 9mm and .40/.357 extractors are pretty cheaply made and may not move freely enough in the slide.

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triggerhappy

· #7 · Mar 6, 2012

My biggest problem with my Gen4 G26 and brand new Gen3 G17 is getting hit by brass in the chest, inside my shirt, in the face, even getting brass inside my eye protection 4 times and inside my boot one time. And no, it's not limp-wristing at all. Took both pistols to Glock and they replaced both extractors and ejectors. Haven't had a problem with my G26 ever since. I still have intermittent issues with my G17 but that's because my hands are small so I can't reach the trigger while properly holding the pistol. Glock is now "manufacturing" (yes, you read that right: manufacturing) a special extractor just for me. Call Glock. They will make it right.

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firesupport

Discussion Starter · #8 · Mar 6, 2012

I think i will call glock about it, shot it again today. Just a few rounds but they go up about 2 feet and backward straight in my face. Kind of distracting to say the least. Thanks for all the input. I may just go to my local shop and see about replacing the extractor.. dont have a clue what they cost, but i will look them up. Thanks again everybody.

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Webphisher

· #9 · Mar 6, 2012

triggerhappy said:
My biggest problem with my Gen4 G26 and brand new Gen3 G17 is getting hit by brass in the chest, inside my shirt, in the face, even getting brass inside my eye protection 4 times and inside my boot one time. And no, it's not limp-wristing at all. Took both pistols to Glock and they replaced both extractors and ejectors. Haven't had a problem with my G26 ever since. I still have intermittent issues with my G17 but that's because my hands are small so I can't reach the trigger while properly holding the pistol. Glock is now "manufacturing" (yes, you read that right: manufacturing) a special extractor just for me. Call Glock. They will make it right.

To me it seems you need a different gun. If you can't hold it properly and hit the trigger you need a smaller gun.

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triggerhappy

· #10 · Mar 6, 2012

Webphisher said:
To me it seems you need a different gun. If you can't hold it properly and hit the trigger you need a smaller gun.

I'm thinking the same thing. I actually went from a Gen4 G17 to a Gen3 G17. The RTF2 hurt my hands from gripping so I went with the Gen3. Waiting to see if the new extractor makes a difference before making any decisions. Might have to go back to a Gen4.

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rivalarrival

· #11 · Mar 6, 2012

You might look at grip reduction. There's dozens of places that do it, and dozens of instructions to do it yourself.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=10437/guntechdetail/Glock-Grip-Reduction-Custom-Beavertails

I think Glock grip reduction is mostly about removing the palm swell on the backstrap and/or the finger finger grooves on the front strap, but you should be able to get a little more relief at the top of the backstrap. Might make enough of a difference.