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Yes I obey the law! Do you? Do you OC in Denver? Buy magazines over 15 rounds? Do background checks for private purchases?

Or do you exercise your rights with one of those privilege cards?
Why would anyone admit to any of those things .. you actually want me to openly admit to those things. . Your are dense.. what I'm willing to say is I exercise my 2A the way it's was intended... if you want to obey those laws go ahead.
 

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Are you a clown.. why would anyone admit to any of those things .. you actually want me to openly admit to those things. . Your are dense.. what I'm willing to say is I exercise my 2A the way it's was intended... if you want to obey those laws go ahead .. but don't be an idiot asking a person to openly admit those things. . Your no patriot your a fool
And you are letting your emotions control you. You are either breaking the law or you are accepting those restrictions. I really don't care, just think blowing smoke is silly.

For now I work within the system, you can call that anything you wish. I never claimed to be a patriot, or anything else. I do support those who actually put boots legally on the ground to change things. Not blow smoke and whine.
 

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And you are letting your emotions control you. You are either breaking the law or you are accepting those restrictions. I really don't care, just think blowing smoke is silly.

For now I work within the system, you can call that anything you wish. I never claimed to be a patriot, or anything else. I do support those who actually put boots legally on the ground to change things. Not blow smoke and whine.
Congratulations. . You continue to be the sheep, I'll be the sheep dog and protect you from the wolves. . Have a great life. .. not too much emotion for you I hope. ..
 

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Well if you want to be a sheep dog, or lead others into uncharted waters, you should be honest, and upfront.

I am not a sheep, or a sheepdog, I am a person with my own brain and mind that I USE. You might try it sometime instead of running on emotion.
 

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Well if you want to be a sheep dog, or lead others into uncharted waters, you should be honest, and upfront.

I am not a sheep, or a sheepdog, I am a person with my own brain and mind that I USE. You might try it sometime instead of running on emotion.
I do lead others. I've got plenty of like minded folks who would be quite appalled at people like you. . True.. you most Def don't compare.. sorry you feel intimidated and frustrated I don't see eye to eye with you. . But I guess your apart of that new class of 97%ers. . Can't help everyone.. but good luck with obeying .. you have that down real good
 

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I do lead others.. just your too ignorant to see it.. I've got plenty of like minded folks who would be quite appalled at people like you. . True.. you most Def don't compare.. sorry you feel intimidated and frustrated I don't see eye to eye with you. . But I guess your apart of that new class of 97%ers. . Can't help everyone.. but good luck with obeying .. you have that down real good
The only thing you lead at is slinging insults and failing to provide citations and facts to backup dogma.

If being a law abiding citizen is being in the majority, I will be in the majority. But I think the prison population is more than 3%, one more, or less.
 

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The only thing you lead at is slinging insults and failing to provide citations and facts to backup dogma. So far you only bark, and have no teeth.

If being a law abiding citizen is being in the majority, I will be in the majority. But I think the prison population is more than 3%, one more, or less.
Yes kinda like blowing smoke and the other insults you slung. . I smell hypocrit
 

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Yes kinda like blowing smoke and the other insults you slung. . I smell hypocrit
I replied to your comment about 97%, and I don't know the exact figures, but law abiding citizens are probably a little less. If you find that an insult you have bigger problems.

Actually the prison population is around .7%, but I will search for the convicted felon population. 8.6% has a felony conviction, so it looks like I am in the 91.4%. What percentage are you in?
 

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I replied to your comment about 97%, and I don't know the exact figures, but law abiding citizens are probably a little less. If you find that an insult you have bigger problems.

Actually the prison population is around .7%, but I will search for the convicted felon population.
Wish I knew what you were babbling about. . I'm not a felon as I've told you all day. . Excersing my 2A as intended is noble and just... not sure about you tho. .
 

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Me Too

My own conclusion. Do you agree ?

Open carry will stop a petty thief if he sees you but, a hardened criminal will take you out first without hesitating because you are his number one enemy when it comes to him going home with a bag full of cash while trying to rob a gas station.

Concealing your weapon will give you the option of surprising a "bad guy" heaven forbid you need to pull it out. Concealing will stop people from staring, won't have the police called on you for no reason.

(Felon's don't open carry !) - FYI to everyone who is so worried about a "Guy with a gun"... They carry it covered up cause they don't want to be caught with it !

I choose to conceal mine 99% of the time unless I'm on my bike and wear a back protector and fits better to open carry. I choose a Comp-Tac IWB (MTAC to be exact) for my 23. When I wear my 5.11 Tactical Thumb Drive Holster, I usually have my Carhartt covering it totally.

I'm not pro conceal or pro open. I simply love the way my IWB fits and enjoy to have it close to my body. If someone sees my gun, I don't worry about it.

P.s. I live in Indiana
I have the Comp-Tac OWB Minotaur holster (best OWB holster ever had) and
Comp-Tac's IWB Minotaur Neutral carry. Its my favorite for comfort. I use
an N82 Pro for spring, summer and early fall here in southern Arizona. That's
because it keeps the entire pistol away from my skin wearing T-shirt and shorts.
That's almost formal wear here.

"Violence is seldom the answer, but when it is the answer it is the only answer".
 

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If your local and state laws don't prevent you from it, you can carry a firearm from any source. Is a permit required where you live?
 

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Here in Arizona we have constitutional carry. There is no license required to carry a firearm on your person, open or concealed. A lot of states require a ccw permit or such to carry the purchased weapon. State laws vary, so check your state's law regarding carry. And a Few states I believe allow people under 21 to carry pistol in any fashion in public. On private property you may. But don't take my word for it
 

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I was gifted a Glock 22 gen 4 on my 19th birthday brand new out of the gunshop. Can I open carry ?
I don't know the laws in Wi, but if a act is not illegal, it is legal. Such as buying a handgun from a FFL under the age of 21.

But it is not illegal in many states to buy one privately because their is no law against it.

If there are no laws against OCing at 19 I would say it is legal.

I could not find the answer to your question on the NRA state law site. The below was on Wiki, so remember it is Wiki.

Open carry is legal anywhere concealed carry is legal, is legal for all adults (18+) who are not prohibited from possession, and does not require a license unless the citizen is in a taxpayer-owned building or within 1000' from the edge of a school property (_and_ not on private property).[6]
In the past, some jurisdictions have tried to prosecute open-carry by equating the open carry of handguns with disorderly conduct. On April 20, 2009 the Wisconsin Attorney General's office released a memorandum to all law enforcement agencies stating that mere open carry of a firearm was not disorderly conduct, and instructed both law enforcement and the district attorneys to cease this practice.
In 2011 a subsection was added to the Disorderly Conduct statute (947.01 [7]) reading "Unless other facts and circumstances that indicate a criminal or malicious intent on the part of the person apply, a person is not in violation of, and may not be charged with a violation of, this section for loading, carrying, or going armed with a firearm, without regard to whether the firearm is loaded or is concealed or openly carried." This codified open carry, ending any debate as to its legality.
Loading, or having a loaded, uncased handgun inside a vehicle was legalized beginning November 1, 2011.[8] The firearm must not be "hidden from ordinary observation" while inside the vehicle unless the citizen has a license.[9]
 

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Open or concealed is contained in the second amendment period.. back in the day when there was only horses one did not need permission from the state to carry on a horse.. I.e today's car or automobile. . Any law that says you have permission is invalid and unjust and unconstitutional. . Period..
 
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