I worked a domestic violence call between husband and wife. During the investigation we needed the husbands License/ID so my 'rookie' coworker walks with him to get it out of a closet. I watched because he made a ROOKIE mistake of allowing the husband to reach and dig all through a dresser instead of getting it for him. Further more allowed the guy to pull out a small bag and go all through it. The guy pulled out his license and then walk back out still carrying this bag.
I had a BAD feeling about this bag. I asked to hold it but the guy wouldnt let me at first and got snappy. He eventually handed it over. It was pretty heavy and I felt the outline of a gun. Unzipped it and sure enough it was a loaded handgun. I found a valid CC permit in the bag to.
After this discovery the guy was placed in handcuffs until our investigation was complete for everyones safety. He did NOT like this and went off on a little tirade about how this is a violation of his rights and how he is such an educated, honest, and great citizen who goes to church. He didnt want to hear my concern of how it was pretty suspicious of him to be walking around with a loaded gun while he was being investigated for a possible domestic assault. One of the MOST DANGEROUS calls we have.
No crime was made but I did a report and took it to the state agency. They are in the process of revoking his permit.
Funny, I had a very similar incident with a rookie. It was a suspicious person call, and she was letting him rummage around in the trunk of his car.
This guy was dressed all in black, semi-tactical, no markings at all, but a pair of Sgt's stripe pins on his collar. Empty holster on his hip and had what looked like a shoulder mic, but I think was an extension speaker for a scanner, that was not attached to anything. He was carrying a little black pouch in his hand. Claimed his ID and the pistol that belonged in his holster were in that trunk.
I actually went to high school with the rookie. We were in neighboring jurisdictions and I was backing her up on the call, which happened enough that we had a multi-agency channel that all dispatch centers monitored. Faster than a phone call!
Anyway, I was recovering from injuries from an accident a couple of months before. This night happened to be the first night that I'd actually been able to put my vest on since the accident. (Yes, I was forced to go back to work, despite the fact that it hurt too much to wear my vest and that I couldn't sit in a car for more than a couple of hours at a time. The good old days.) We walk him back to his car. I'm trying to watch what's going on while listening to our radio, because I was shift supervisor and I had a part (read old) timer and a rookie working that night. Both good guys, and together they could almost get through a call by themselves. When it was one or the other, no problem. When I had both of them no a shift, I had to pay closer attention.
The guy had said a few things that didn't add up, and that were enough to be confusing for both of us. He kept saying he was a "courtesy officer", which is what apartment complexes in the area called police officers who lived there and provided some degree of "security", most of which meant parking their marked unit in a spot near the entrance.
So, she's letting him rummage around in the trunk of his car. (Oh, the car was a Chevy Corsica, which back in the early/mid 90's were used by the Army for MPs on same bases, on which he had a magnet mount cellular looking antenna on the trunk, with the cable attached to nothing, and another one just above the rear window, with the cable cut off. Serious wannabe!) I'm watching, wondering where this gun is, and thought "she's going to get us killed" passes through my mind. I was about to step in when he finally comes out of the trunk with his ID.
Turns out he has warrants, or at least he matched a warrant in the system and we couldn't verify it wasn't him, so she hooked him up. Turned out that in his little black pouch was a .22 revolver. The cylinder was jammed, so he only had one shot. Fortunately, he didn't take it. That gave him an additional charge of carrying a concealed weapon without a license.
I don't know anyone who didn't make some mistakes as a rookie.
So many of these folks are looking for trouble just to prove a point.
This drives me nuts. Like that guy in Philly, who purposely OC'd and always carried a recorder, just looking for a confrontation. There are too many of them.
It's one thing when an encounter happens and the officers screw up; then a lawsuit gets filed and things change. When some idiot goes around fishing for an encounter, hoping for someone to do something wrong, that just makes everything worse for everyone else.
I didn't watch the video. I've seen enough of them and they're all basically the same. At least this one wasn't someone fishing.
As for the "you have to conceal" thing, I've heard it before from other officers in other states that don't understand how it works. There's not enough training given on carry laws, especially OC.
