A buddy just got back from Glock Armorer's school. He got the latest Glock direct order form (rev. 25) I am trying to get it scanned to PDF, and there are no longer RTFs on the form only Gen3 or Gen4 as options. He asked the instructor about it, and the instructor said they are not taking rtf orders anymore; once they are caught up with current orders the RTF is done. He also said to expect the Gen3s to be done by the end of the year.
No more gen3's huh? What happens to us unfortunate ones that live in California that can't get a Gen4 without the single shot exemption? Guess we will just have to buy used from now on.......
Are you speaking from an LE Dept special order perspective? Because RTF2's have been discontinued to the civ market for quite some time. Edit: I assumed you were talking about the RTF2....but realize that RTF is also referred to as the standard Gen 3 (different than RTF2). So if you mean that the standard Gen 3's are done, then yeah I did not know that.
Gen4's do not meet California's new pistol requirements. Unless Glock is going to make a Gen4.5, or California is giving them a variance, Gen3s will continue to be produced. I waited for a long year hoping it would change, but no such luck.
Interesting, you think Glock will continue to make a model for one state in the USA? Anyway, I've heard other bad info from Glock employees before, it could be wrong. He was saying the RTF2 is being discontinued for everyone, not even government special orders, and all Gen 3s will be discontinued by the end of the calendar year. Wait and see I guess, but loosing the Gen 3s doesn't bother me, I like the Gen 4 grip better than standard Gen 3, and California can just get off their rumps and get the Gen 4 through testing to make it compliant too.
Wow. If Glock does actually stop making all Gen 3's and Cali doesn't allow Gen 4's, wonder if there will be a spike in prices for Gen 3's in Cali as a result.
I don't see Glock letting a huge number of future gun sales go out the window. Either they will have an ample supply of Gen3's for California or they will find a way to have the Gen4's Cali. compliant. Glock would make no additional profit only California dealers would be gouging the buyers if new guns dried up.
Despite the Gen4 being the newest model there are still many people that prefer the Gen3. They are still being sold new in stores all over the USA and internationally. California also has 38 million of the 312 million population which is 12%. Not a small bag of potatoes. In addition, not all of the models have a Gen4 variant yet so you can't just unilaterally drop a generation as you would drop all of those models as well. From looking at the GLOCK Annual '12 these all don't have a Gen4...18, 24, 25, 28, 36, 38, and 39.
The 18, 25 and 28 are super low volume sales and not even legal for US civilian purcash, and the 24, 36, 37, 38, 39 are all low volume sellers that have been rumored to be nearing the chopping block for a few years now. Again, I'm not saying this is the gospel, there may be nothing to it at all beyond the rumor mill of a Glock employee............I'm just passing along the rumor for what it is, a rumor, but one that does make alot of business sense, IMO. In regards to California, it won't take anything more than a greased palm and the Gen4 will be on the Cali legal sales list. Glock could have that easily accomplished by the end of the year if they set their mind to it.
I thought the 24 was discontinued alongside the 17L a while ago... I don't see them needing to make a new frame for the 36. The 37 is available in Gen4 and the 38 & 39 are easily made, since they're on existing frames. I don't see them going anywhere, not as long as more depts continue to evaluate and adopt them. But we shall see.
[/QUOTE] In regards to California, it won't take anything more than a greased palm and the Gen4 will be on the Cali legal sales list. Glock could have that easily accomplished by the end of the year if they set their mind to it.[/QUOTE] Isn't the California testing just a greased palm anyways? Lol...
