muzzle break

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by shiflet, Mar 25, 2012.

  1. shiflet

    shiflet New Member

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    So I got my ar 15 all set up. I was curious to know if switching out the muzzle break would change the loudness of the shot? If so does this depend on shape or pattern? Or solidity and thickness? Or what is it that changes sound??
     
  2. bhale187

    bhale187 New Member Supporter

    The sound experienced by the shooter can greatly change based on the type of brake being using.
     

  3. shiflet

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    Any info on what could possibly quiet it down a bit?
     
  4. bhale187

    bhale187 New Member Supporter

    Just making sure we are on the same page.......They won't make it any less loud, but there are muzzle brakes that direct the sound away from the shooter to make it seem more quite from the shooter's perspective.

    Two brakes that do this well are the Troy Claymore and the DPMS Levang. Both are also terrible for flash suppression.

    Brakes and Flashhiders for ARs are seemingly countless to choose from. There are some that reduce muzzle flip, some that reduce visible flash, some that intentionally increase flash, and a few that reduce the sound experienced by the shooter. In my experience any of them that do one of those things very well will not do the other things well at all.
     
  5. SHOOTER13

    SHOOTER13 RETIRED MODERATOR Sponsor Lifetime Supporting Member

    A suppressor would really help to quite the report down...

    A suppressor is a device attached to or part of the barrel of a firearm which reduces the amount of noise and usually also the amount of muzzle flash generated by firing the weapon. Suppressors can be used both with gunpowder-based weapons and with compressed air weapons.
     
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  6. shiflet

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    A suppressor would require the tax stamp and also cost quite a chunk of change I believe. Where as a muzzle brake would be much more cost effective. I'm not worried about a flash so much as I am having my ears ring if I shoot without ear protection if needs be..
     
  7. SHOOTER13

    SHOOTER13 RETIRED MODERATOR Sponsor Lifetime Supporting Member

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  8. bhale187

    bhale187 New Member Supporter

    On an ar15 using 223/5.56 you are going to be looking at $700-$1000 for a good suppressor I'd think. And for a suppressor to really do it's job you have to use subsonic ammo. Subsonic 223 is, well, silly, IMO.

    Probably the best sound reducer at the shooters perspective is the Noveske flaming pig, its big and expensive, but if you are not worried about the size or the muzzle flash it's about as good as you've going to get without going the true suppressor route. I've shoot one on an ar pistol and was very impressed, because ar pistols are generally very loud. I would not want one myself though, too big, too ugly, and they put out a hell of a flame.
     
  9. brutusvk

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  10. shiflet

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    Does anyone know other than the ports in the brake what aspect of the metal causes a reduction of sound for the shooter? Is it the angles of the ports the thickness of the metal used?
     
  11. brutusvk

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    It is the angles send the gasses to the side. Stand next to one and you will understand. Try using a spotting scope for a buddy as they are dialing in thier AR with a break. You can hear, feel and even taste the difference. lol
     
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  12. bhale187

    bhale187 New Member Supporter

    Its the directional angle of the ports more than anything.
     
  13. shiflet

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    OK so if I want a quieter shot for myself what is a recommended muzzle brake in your opinion...
     
  14. Tape

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    I say no and not possible, if you remove the MB it will be just as loud, if you install a different one it will be just as loud but may be quieter to the shooter if the MB directs the blast to another direction but to a stand-byer it will be just as loud. The only way to quiet it down is to install a suppressor.
     
  15. Happysniper1

    Happysniper1 New Member

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    Not strictly speaking a muzzle break, but....

    FWIW, the muzzle break (Phantom) that I installed on my latest AR build tamed the report so much that it can be fired WITHOUT hearing protection on (I kid you not!).

    The shooter can fire without any ringing of the ears or anything afterwards, even 10 shots in a row, but bystanders will still need hearing protection.

    Also, compared the blast damage on a cardboard target, standard A2 flashider blew a hole maybe 2 inches in diameter with the muzzle stuck right up against the target, the Phantom flashider blew a hole maybe 6 inches in diameter fired the same way.

    Impressive.

    All my future AR builds will have Phantom flashiders on them.
     
  16. shiflet

    shiflet New Member

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    Thank you for this info! Haha