horrible experience!! ill have my ccw soon!

Discussion in 'Conceal & Open Carry' started by Dboyce12, May 1, 2012.

  1. Dboyce12

    Dboyce12 New Member

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    So yesterday I was working! (landscaping) and we were working in Detroit, I was weed whipping behind our customers house when all of a sudden I at the moment think I hit the back of my head on a tree branch which happens all the time so I didn't think nothin of it. So I turn around to find a blk kid holding a .357 to my head. Telling me to empty my pockets. So I had no other choice but to do so! That was the scariest moment of my life! And I was completely unprepared but that will never happen again. Should I open carry untill I get my ccw or just wait? Ps. The divide stole my weed whip too!
     
  2. RockoutwithmyGlockout

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    My suggestion is to CC in your case. He snuck up on you that time, next time he'll take your firearm! First off I would like to say I'm really glad your ok. Nobody wants to be placed in that situation.
    Welcome to the forum...
     

  3. Glad you are ok.
    But, even if you had a CC you still would have been **** out of luck. When a criminal has the jump on you the best thing you could probably do is comply. .357 pointed at your face. I don't care who you are you couldn't get your gun out fast enough. He would have opened your face up well before you even had the gun out of the holster.
    When you do get your CC you have to work on situation awareness. In street they call it being on your p's and q's. Make it hard for any one else to try to sneak up on you.
    Again glad your ok
     
  4. Happysniper1

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    Holy Heck!!!

    Glad you are OK, DB!
     
  5. BLCKWLF

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    That scenario, a gun would had been useless. That is why I would recommend Krav Maga. You cannot draw your weapon and defend yourself from someone who already has their weapon drawn and is with in 21 feet. (the 21 foot rule). Krav would teach you, depending on your teacher, how to effectively neutralize your attacker by disarming them and incapacitating them at the same time. Glad you are ok, I don't think I would OC in Detroit.
     
  6. wow!!! glad you're okay...
     
  7. Happysniper1

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    Even if you did have a gun in you at the time, it may not have done you any good, unfortunately.

    Punk had the drop on you.

    Perhaps weapon takedown techniques would've helped? Maybe, maybe not.

    I'm just damn glad you are OK, man!
     
  8. Dboyce12

    Dboyce12 New Member

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    Yeah I'm definately gonna look for classes locally thanks for the suggestion.
     
  9. Dboyce12

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    Thanks man. Yeah all they do is sit around and watch you an like a landscape route you do the same routine week after week. An with all that expensive equipment its a wonder it hasn't happend before.
     
  10. Dboyce12

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    It was scary that's for sure. I think I might of s*it myself a little bit! Lol Ahh man I gta laugh I can't just sit an dwell on it ya know? But I see things totally different now! I was one of those it'll never happen to me guys!
     
  11. series11

    series11 Hail Commifornia Lifetime Supporting Member

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    I'm glad you are OK. That is something that I hope never happens to me. I agree with the others that a CCW doesn't do much as the kid had the drop on you. Another tactic I heard was to carry a fake wallet for instances like these.
     
  12. Dboyce12

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    Send the link again it didn't post. Yeah you guys are right I wouldn't of helped at all now that I look at it!
     
  13. SeventiesWreckers

    SeventiesWreckers Load Bearing Wall

    When you finally get past the event itself you'll see it for what it was. A very real no win situation for you. There are times when anything you do is wrong, it's just a matter of degree. If he was under age, and you successfully resisted his robbery attempt, and he was injured, or killed by you, you lose. You've seen it happen a thousand times in the news. The crying mother, an outraged community, a crusading D.A., every activist & politician coming out of the woodwork to get their face on television. He was a good boy, yada, yada, yada. You know the drill.

    Some things to consider: He might have had backup you never saw, it's more likely he did than didn't. The more time you spend in that kind of environment the more you see whats really taking place. Guys on corners that never cross the street, guys at bus stops that never get on a bus. They never work alone, and their work is finding a mark. Someone that has something worth their trouble. you know how it works.

    The best solution of course is not to be there to begin with, but if work takes you there, that's just life. Keep your head on a swivel, try to make all the green lights, but if you do get stuck at a red one, watch both your mirrors & the sidewalks, keep everything locked all the time, & try to always have a co-worker. Four eyes are better than two, & safety in numbers.

    Not talking down to you, just reading my own mental checklist I used to have. I don't go there anymore, ever. I live in Nevada, in the desert.

    The hills here do have eyes. But that's okay, because they're mine.

    Glad you made it through okay. You'll be fine.
     
  14. Happysniper1

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    Forgive me for this momentary distraction, DB, but Seventies, you said
    And I almost cracked up! I actually thought of that movie when I saw you walking up the driveway when we met! Funny, huh?

    No offense meant.


    ...OK, back to you, DB....
     
  15. GunnerGSP

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    So sorry to hear about this Db.

    I do not live in Detroit, but I do live in SE Michigan. We have probably crossed paths on the road before and didn't even know it.

    Stay safe and watch your 6.
     
  16. series11

    series11 Hail Commifornia Lifetime Supporting Member

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    Sorry no link just something that I heard. I don't know if it would have worked in your situation but it is something to think about and something I'm considering.
     
  17. GunnerGSP

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    blackwolffcf, I am curious about your statement. How would one use KM to disarm someone from, say, 20 feet away? In the scenario the OP described (close quarters), I could see physically disarming the assailant as a possibility. But what if your attacker is armed with a firearm, is ~15 ft away, and has a hair trigger finger? Any twitch by the victim could cause the attacker to start shooting.

    I am not trying to goad you into a debate on this. I am truly open minded on this one. In fact, just yesterday I drove by a Krav Maga training facility and I thought of the Glock Forum. I just couldn't remember who had mentioned it on previous postings.
     
  18. RockoutwithmyGlockout

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    Unless you have a pocket pistol and you "reach for your wallet". I know a guy that keeps it there just for that purpose. I know I do. Ruger LCP. I still carry my Glock but the Ruger is back there as back up...
     
  19. Maybe its just me. I think KM is a good means of self defense but when someone has the jump on you. It is what it is. If that .357 he was holding had the hammer back, my god breaking wind could get your head blown off.
     
  20. dslmac2

    dslmac2 New Member

    Wow Very sorry you had to go through that situation, but very glad your here to tell us about it and did not end up mocking your forum profile picture. Stay Safe.