hair trigger?

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by Glock-Siggy, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. Glock-Siggy

    Glock-Siggy New Member Lifetime Supporting Member

    Just wondering if there is a legal definition of a hair trigger?
  2. rivalarrival

    rivalarrival Are we there yet?

    Layman opinion follows:

    I've never encountered the term in Ohio gun laws. Is there a particular reason why you think there might be a legal definition?

  3. It would be up to your state to define it

    BLCKWLF GrassHopper

    I have yet to come across the term in any form of law...

    As far as I know it has yet to be mentioned.

    I know for a fact that AZ makes no mention of it.

    I'll check it out though, gimme a sec...

    BLCKWLF GrassHopper

    Just finished a search of the Westlaw database...

    "hair trigger" has no legal definition, however, the term has been used in cases, federal and state, in reference to firearms with less than a 2.5lbs trigger weight.

    Some states may have laws governing a minimum trigger weight...

    (please see disclaimer in signature)
  6. jonm61

    jonm61 New Member

    Considering that gun people can't agree on a definition, a consisten legal definition would be nearly impossible.
  7. What they said. to me it means 0.1# lol

    BLCKWLF GrassHopper

    Last time I went to Florida, my great uncle took us to the range. He let us shoot his kimber custom 1911. He didn't tell us it had a "hair trigger", scared the living crap out of me!!!! Jesus!!! Ever wonder why some ranges gave holes in strange places... Thats why... After the first shot though, it was fun shooting. I might lower the trigger weight on my glock at some point. (and no, none of those holes are mine, my finger stays off the trigger till I'm on target).
  9. I'm pretty happy with the ghost 3.5 and the wolf 6# spring, but I may still tinker with it to drop some of the "snap"
  10. Glock-Siggy

    Glock-Siggy New Member Lifetime Supporting Member

    @ rivalarrival....nothing specific, I intend on replacing the trigger and bar on my ccw (lc9) to shorten the travel. But that makes it an altered weapon which could be a problem if the weapon is ever used to stop Joe schmuckatelli from doing things he shouldn't be doing.
  11. teksid

    teksid Well-Known Member

    I removed the mag safety on mine(LC9) and it helped moderatly.
  12. mikecu

    mikecu New Member

    How could that "be a problem"?
    To me, altering a trigger to make it lighter is making that weapon more accurate. Therefore it could save your life due to better placement.

    I've never found any case law that addresses this issue.
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2012

    BLCKWLF GrassHopper

    Just for you guys, I have legal writing this term. So for my class paper I'll do one about altered firearms and court cases. Settle this question once and for all.
  14. rivalarrival

    rivalarrival Are we there yet?

    I don't buy into this "altered weapon" crap. The only time an altered weapon will matter is if the shooting wasn't justified.
  15. Argyle64

    Argyle64 New Member

    The trigger jobs I do for most are 3.5# jobs and that's far from what I would consider a "hair trigger". I haven't seen anything anywhere about laws governing trigger pull weight.
  16. zipper046

    zipper046 Member Supporter

    No legal definition I know of. Biggest issue with any shooting that the lawyers look at is any altering done to the stock weapon. If there was anything done (ie: light trigger, removal of safeties or safety equipment) it opens up a negligence/liability case which is civil and can lead to monetary damages being awarded.