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So my Glock finally had some playing time. This past Friday, I went to meet up with a couple of my friends at a local bar after work. When I arrived, it started down pouring so I rush into the bar. I thought I lock my doors..but I guess not. Anyway, when my friend and I left the bar for the night I saw that my passenger door was open and a leg was hanging out. I thought it was my female friend waiting for me. As I approach the door, I saw a strange male rummaging through my consoles and departments. Out came the glock (glock 19 to be exact). I pointed my gun directly at his head. My muzzle was literally 5 inches away from his face. When he saw me, it was like he saw a ghost. I asked him what is he doing in my car (it was more rated r, but I'll keep it pg-13 for this forum). He said he was gonna sleep in my car. He must of thought i was born yesterday or something. Anyway I told him to get out and put his hands on his wall and don't move. I did a quick search in my car to see anything was missing. But I was more focus on keeping him at gun point. Anyway, I told him to get loss and that he won't be so lucky next time.
 

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You got out there at just the right time! You even handled the situation with excellent composure. My only question is (I am in no way questioning your judgement, state of mind, or story so please dont take it that way.) how would a court system work if you had to take his life because of a dumb decision on HIS part? Another question is how do you judge your alcohol content and your ability to make correct judgement calls? (once again not directed at the OP, just questions that have came to my mind.
Edit: to explain myself better, HD scenario, you had 3-4 beers and are awakened to a man in your house, how does that play out as far as judgement calls and the LEO, court, and jury outlook.
 

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Those are good points and I totally agree. That's why I didn't "off" the guy. I only had 2 beers. And 2 beers doesn't affect my judgement, trust me. It wasn't worth it. To go through the whole trial. It's not what happen that matter, is what you can prove in court what you did was right/justice that matter.
 

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Yes in PA, you are allow to carry in bars if the owner of that private property consent. The owner happen to consent, and he happen to be my friend.
 

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Be very very careful holding someone at gun point if you do not call the cops. The idea is to escape the situation, holding someone at gun point unless to wait for the police (and if they have a weapon imo) could be very bad.

Glad it all went well and you are safe
 

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Be very very careful holding someone at gun point if you do not call the cops. The idea is to escape the situation, holding someone at gun point unless to wait for the police (and if they have a weapon imo) could be very bad.

Glad it all went well and you are safe
Yeah I will keep that in mind. I wasn't sure if the guy had a weapon on him or not. I had him keep his hands up throughout the situation so he couldn't reach for anything if he did had one. He happen to be some homeless guy who got away with less than a dollar in quarter and my favorite $8 Coleman flashlight from Walmart. Hah
 

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Im glad you didnt take it the wrong way and I agree 2 beers isnt enough for me to not make sound decisions. That being said I dont want to think about how hard of a battle it would be to prove that in court. Another thing is what if he would have pulled a weapon and you HAD to take his life what do you from there? Do you talk to a lawyer before you make a statement? Do you volunteer for a BAC test to prove innocence and take a chance on it being used against you? These are serious questions I have, I occasionally drink and have a gun for HD. What do you do when you are clearly within reason of the law but have alcohol in your system?
 

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So my Glock finally had some playing time. This past Friday, I went to meet up with a couple of my friends at a local bar after work. When I arrived, it started down pouring so I rush into the bar. I thought I lock my doors..but I guess not. Anyway, when my friend and I left the bar for the night I saw that my passenger door was open and a leg was hanging out. I thought it was my female friend waiting for me. As I approach the door, I saw a strange male rummaging through my consoles and departments. Out came the glock (glock 19 to be exact). I pointed my gun directly at his head. My muzzle was literally 5 inches away from his face. When he saw me, it was like he saw a ghost. I asked him what is he doing in my car (it was more rated r, but I'll keep it pg-13 for this forum). He said he was gonna sleep in my car. He must of thought i was born yesterday or something. Anyway I told him to get out and put his hands on his wall and don't move. I did a quick search in my car to see anything was missing. But I was more focus on keeping him at gun point. Anyway, I told him to get loss and that he won't be so lucky next time.
And people ask why there is a desire to carry...cause you never know when something like this will happen. I would hate to be in this situation in the first place but I would definitely hate it without a way to protect myself.
 

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Yeah I will keep that in mind. I wasn't sure if the guy had a weapon on him or not. I had him keep his hands up throughout the situation so he couldn't reach for anything if he did had one. He happen to be some homeless guy who got away with less than a dollar in quarter and my favorite $8 Coleman flashlight from Walmart. Hah
Don't get me wrong not at ALL questioning you, when faced with these things you do what you have to do. just something that came to my paranoid mind ;)
 

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These questions are true and suit situations like this. But in an intense situation like I described, you don't think about those questions. Your main concern is trying to control the situation.
 

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For the question on home defense if you drink then go to bed and wake up to an intruder I think it depends on the state and it's castle doctrine laws. In Colorado we have the law called make my day which allows deadly force against an intruder no matter what with protection from prosecution. So if someone comes in my house I could be belligerently drunk and still kill them. Same goes for anything (medical marijuana, prescription drugs, etc. ). Being drunk on your own property is not illegal anywhere in America as far as I know so no matter what's in your blood stream I believe that you don't lose the right to self defense. Sure would be unamerican if you did. You can't help that someone is trying to cause you a bad time while you're trying to have a good time lol
 

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itsj0hnnyb0y said:
These questions are true and suit situations like this. But in an intense situation like I described, you don't think about those questions. Your main concern is trying to control the situation.
I can only imagine and like I said you did well, I just know that I too have a paranoid mind lol.
 

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For the question on home defense if you drink then go to bed and wake up to an intruder I think it depends on the state and it's castle doctrine laws. In Colorado we have the law called make my day which allows deadly force against an intruder no matter what with protection from prosecution. So if someone comes in my house I could be belligerently drunk and still kill them. Same goes for anything (medical marijuana, prescription drugs, etc. ). Being drunk on your own property is not illegal anywhere in America as far as I know so no matter what's in your blood stream I believe that you don't lose the right to self defense. Sure would be unamerican if you did. You can't help that someone is trying to cause you a bad time while you're trying to have a good time lol
Hahahah I like that "You can't help that someone is trying to cause you a bad time while you're trying to have a good time lol".
 

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These questions are true and suit situations like this. But in an intense situation like I described, you don't think about those questions. Your main concern is trying to control the situation.
Agreed. The guy was dumb enough to get into your car, who knows what he could have done next.
 

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Here in AZ we have a zero tolerance policy regarding alcohol and firearms... Wondering about the HD scenario myself... Castle doctrine and self defense justification laws say nothing about intoxication... And no case law that I know of... Hmmm...
 

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itsj0hnnyb0y said:
So my Glock finally had some playing time. This past Friday, I went to meet up with a couple of my friends at a local bar after work. When I arrived, it started down pouring so I rush into the bar. I thought I lock my doors..but I guess not. Anyway, when my friend and I left the bar for the night I saw that my passenger door was open and a leg was hanging out. I thought it was my female friend waiting for me. As I approach the door, I saw a strange male rummaging through my consoles and departments. Out came the glock (glock 19 to be exact). I pointed my gun directly at his head. My muzzle was literally 5 inches away from his face. When he saw me, it was like he saw a ghost. I asked him what is he doing in my car (it was more rated r, but I'll keep it pg-13 for this forum). He said he was gonna sleep in my car. He must of thought i was born yesterday or something. Anyway I told him to get out and put his hands on his wall and don't move. I did a quick search in my car to see anything was missing. But I was more focus on keeping him at gun point. Anyway, I told him to get loss and that he won't be so lucky next time.
Bro careful getting that close to someone you've drawn on. Remember, it gets easier and easier to take your weapon from you the closer you are. KEEP YOUR DISTANCE BROTHER!
 
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