[rv19]

Is there any difference at all between the 2 manufacturers? Or Austrian Glocks are way better than the US made in terms of performance and reliability.

Thanks for all your opinions on this.

Cheers.

 

[Cowboy08]

There isn't any difference. The Glocks made in the U.S. are the same as ones made in Austria. Kinda funny that all the Glocks sold in the U.S. were made in Austria and the ones made in the U.S. are all exported to Austria.

 

[nyycanseco33]

There isn't any difference. The Glocks made in the U.S. are the same as ones made in Austria. Kinda funny that all the Glocks sold in the U.S. were made in Austria and the ones made in the U.S. are all exported to Austria.

Yes and no... Same decent quality and Glock perfection but different treatment process for the metal slide and barrel... Tenifer process is done in Austria but cannot be done in the US due to the chemicals used that are outlawed by the EPA... Therefore it is a different metal treatment on the US made Glocks that are for export only

 

[SHOOTER13]

Can either one of you two (Cowboy08 & nyycanseco33) cited a reference for the information you provided...?!

Can anyone verify either of these two claims...really just curious ! Thanks!

There isn't any difference. The Glocks made in the U.S. are the same as ones made in Austria. Kinda funny that all the Glocks sold in the U.S. were made in Austria and the ones made in the U.S. are all exported to Austria.

Yes and no... Same decent quality and Glock perfection but different treatment process for the metal slide and barrel... Tenifer process is done in Austria but cannot be done in the US due to the chemicals used that are outlawed by the EPA... Therefore it is a different metal treatment on the US made Glocks that are for export only

 

[voyager4520]

The US-made Glocks aren't currently sold in the US, so we don't have too many reports from the owners of how well they work. I've only heard from like 10 people who own US-made Glocks, none of them have reported any problems. All of them live in the Philippines.

My Gen3 G27 was made in Austria and it had the erratic ejection problem, which I fixed by installing the 28926 ejector. I have a Gen3 G23, also made in Austria, which ejects fine, and I put the extractor from that gun into the slide of the G27. Comparing how the extractor is held in each slide, I believe the cut-out in the G27 slide which holds the extractor was positioned incorrectly.

The G27 slide also has markings from dull cutters. The rear of the firing pin channel has a spiral groove maybe 1/64 of an inch deep running all the way up to the recess where the firing pin channel liner seats. The extractor depressor plunger channel wall is wavy, with a small lip about 1/16 of an inch in from the rear.

 

[bhale187]

The Department Anniversary Glock 23 Gen4s we just got were tennifer'd and laser engraved in Austria and assembled in the US according to our Glock Rep that set the deal up for us. Nothing visibly different on them. I've not seen a USA stamped Glock (slide) in person.

The ones you are getting in the US are assembled in the US, but the slide and barrel were produced and tennifer'd in Austria. The frame is made in the US. This is coming from our LE Glock rep.

 

[SHOOTER13]

Thanks for the clarification bhale187 !!

That is what I was led to believe...most parts made in Austria,

shipped to the US then assembled with parts (frame) made here.

 

[PUNISHER]

This is a real good thread.

 

[iGlock]

So in other words not a big difference...imo

 

[nyycanseco33]

I was always told they do make barrels and slides in the US also but use a different process instead of tenifer, I could be wrong... I don't think there is much of a difference though, they are Glock perfection, you can't beat or argue with that no matter what

 

[bhale187]

Paging MattA!

Maybe he could find out and put all this to rest, I don't think that type of information release would be something an employee can't divulge.

 

[nyycanseco33]

Paging MattA!

Maybe he could find out and put all this to rest, I don't think that type of information release would be something an employee can't divulge.

Good point, where is our resident Glock employee when we need him most lol

 

[SHOOTER13]

Maybe someone (me) should PM him...!!

OK...I'm on it...

Done...awaiting reply.

 

[jonm61]

Tenifer process is done in Austria but cannot be done in the US due to the chemicals used that are outlawed by the EPA...

This is patently false. Tenifer is just a brand name for a treatment process called Ferritic nitrocarburizing. Melonite, another brand name for the same treatment process, is used by S&W on the M&Ps, which are made in the U.S.

At worst, the difference is the brand names. It seems that the U.S. manufacturers use Melonite, while European manufacturers use Tenifer. This may be a licensing thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferritic_nitrocarburizing

Salt bath ferritic nitrocarburizing
Salt bath ferritic nitrocarburizing is also known as liquid ferritic nitrocarburizing or liquid nitrocarburizing[8] and is also known by the trademarked names Tufftride[2] and Tenifer.[9]
The most simple form of this process is encompassed by the trademarked Melonite process, also known as Meli 1. It is most commonly used on steels, sintered irons, and cast irons to lower friction and improve wear and corrosion resistance.[10][11]

I know Wikipedia is not always the most reliable, but I've done additional research on the subject and this is a very good article.

 

[rv19]

Thanks for all your input on this matter.
Well according to my dealer, almost all the parts are from Austria except the frame. The slider has "US" stamped on it and less 'glossy'. They charge a premium price for Austrian made glocks and the supply is very limited here AFAIK. That made me curious.
I will post pics soon.

 

[jonm61]

Thanks for all your input on this matter.
Well according to my dealer, almost all the parts are from Austria except the frame. The slider has "US" stamped on it and less 'glossy'. They charge a premium price for Austrian made glocks and the supply is very limited here AFAIK. That made me curious.
I will post pics soon.

Sounds like your dealer is full of crap and is trying to BS you. Most of the Glocks sold in the US have either Austrian uppers or the entire gun is made there. The ones with Austrian uppers and US frames, as marked on the right side of the frame, are assembled in the US.

There is no "premium" charged for "Austrian" Glocks because the US built Glocks aren't generally sold here! If I were you, I'd shop somewhere else.

 

[bhale187]

Sounds like your dealer is full of crap and is trying to BS you. Most of the Glocks sold in the US have either Austrian uppers or the entire gun is made there. The ones with Austrian uppers and US frames, as marked on the right side of the frame, are assembled in the US.

There is no "premium" charged for "Austrian" Glocks because the US built Glocks aren't generally sold here! If I were you, I'd shop somewhere else.

He's from the Phillipines

 

[bhale187]

Thanks for all your input on this matter.
Well according to my dealer, almost all the parts are from Austria except the frame. The slider has "US" stamped on it and less 'glossy'. They charge a premium price for Austrian made glocks and the supply is very limited here AFAIK. That made me curious.
I will post pics soon.

Can't wait to see the pics, I'm very interested in the differences for the USA stamped slides. As I understand it they are for export only, most went to the Phillippines, and they have a different finish than the ones we get here in the US.

 

[nyycanseco33]

He's from the Phillipines

Ah the Philippines, so he's prolly able to get the rarely seen G25 and G28... Lucky guy! Wish they made enough import points to be sold here in the US too, def stinks

 

[bhale187]

Ah the Philippines, so he's prolly able to get the rarely seen G25 and G28... Lucky guy! Wish they made enough import points to be sold here in the US too, def stinks

Yeah, I've not got alot of interest in them, but never understood why they can be bought by US LE agencies, but not the public.