G27 cases bent

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by mwdenko, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. mwdenko

    mwdenko New Member

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    Just a quick question or two. I purchased a 27 used last weekend. I fired it today. I have a couple questions.

    1. The ejected brass had a bend at the top end. Not so drastic that it looks like a "D" but pretty close. Is that an extractor problem?

    2. Trigger kind of bites my finger. I am not sure what Gen this 27 is. But it does have finger grooves. How would one fix that issue? Put a 3.5lbs trigger on it?
    My gen 4 17 doesn't have this issue and it has a 3.5 lbs trigger.


    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. voyager4520

    voyager4520 New Member

    Does it look like this from the side, with a triangular scape/dent?

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    My G27 was doing the same thing. It's sort of an extractor issue. Some people have replaced the extractor and it fixed the problem, but for other people only the new 28926 ejector would fix the problem. In my case a new extractor didn't make any difference, I had to install the 28926 ejector and that finally fixed the problem.

    The 28926 ejector isn't available to the public yet, if you're a Glock Certified Armorer you can order one, or you can ask an Armorer in your area to order one for you and install it for you. The ejector comes by itself, so you have to remove the trigger housing, pull the old 1882 ejector out, and insert the new 28926 ejector into it.

    Remove the trigger housing from the frame, grab the ejector with a pair of pliers and pull it out of the trigger housing, then insert the new ejector. Be careful not to bend the ejector to either side because the slightest change can either adversely affect ejection or put the tip of the ejector closer to the primer of a live round being ejected which would be dangerous.
    (I wrap the teeth of the pliers in masking tape so the ejector doesn't get gouged or scratched)
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    Pretty soon the new ejectors will be available to the public in the latest Gen4 trigger housings, the new Gen4 trigger housings have part numbers 30275 for 9mm and 28927 for .40. Once the retailers change their manufacturer part numbers for those parts to those numbers, it's a simple matter to order one, remove the ejector, and insert it into a Gen3 trigger housing to use in your Gen3.

    Here are pictures of the new ejectors:
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    If your G27 doesn't have the bigger magazine catch like your Gen4 G17 has, that means your G27 is a Gen3. Gen3's and Gen4's use different trigger housings, so if you were to order a 28927 Gen4 trigger housing, you'd have to remove the ejector from the Gen4 trigger housing and put it into the Gen3 trigger housing for your gun.
     
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  3. voyager4520

    voyager4520 New Member

    Oh sorry I forgot about the trigger irritating your finger. The G27 comes from the factory with a trigger pad that is serrated, it may often cause a blister on the part of your finger pad that's at the very bottom of the trigger. Sometimes the trigger itself doesn't cause the blister, but if your finger is low on the trigger it may rub against the bottom of the trigger guard as you pull the trigger.

    If you look at your Gen4 G17, the trigger pad on it is smooth. You can install a smooth trigger pad into your G27, you have to order the Glock trigger bar with manufacturer/Glock part number 357, then install it into the gun. If you have a local gun store that sells a lot of Glock parts, they'd probably have it. It's the trigger bar for the Gen3 G17, it will also work in a G27. If none of your local gun stores have it, there are many online retailers who sell Glock parts.

    To take the frame apart you'll need a 3/32 inch punch such as the Glock Armorer's Tool. If you need info on how to take the gun apart to change the trigger:
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV0wDDFV0NY[/ame]

    On the following page are some Glock Armorer's Manuals, just scroll down to the "G" section. I learned from the Update Manual and 2009 Manual. The 2009 Manual has a few pages missing, but that info can be found in the Update Manual as well.
    http://stevespages.com/page7b.htm
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2012
  4. mwdenko

    mwdenko New Member

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    That is awesome. Thanks for all of the information. I'm sure this will help out a ton of people. Going right now to check the 27 against your picture. The casing look exactly like your picture.

    Glad it is a common issue. Check back in a few...

    Thanks again!!!!!
     
  5. mwdenko

    mwdenko New Member

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    Yep Part 1882 and the serrated trigger. Awesome stuff.

    I'll keep this updated as I fix'er up.

    Thanks!!!
     
  6. silver04v

    silver04v New Member

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    My 22 gen 4 is doing the same thing. Also brass in face. My local armorer is gonna throw on the new ejector for me this week. I'll update after blowing some rounds through it after.
     
  7. mwdenko

    mwdenko New Member

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    I'm having trouble finding an armorer. Ugh...Akron cleveland area. Anyone have any hints?
     
  8. SHOOTER13

    SHOOTER13 RETIRED MODERATOR Sponsor Lifetime Supporting Member

    Two awesome and very helpful posts voyager4520 !!

    Thanks for helping all of us...
     
  9. sglide05

    sglide05 Very Cool Member Supporter

    That was a very helpful video. Thank you.
     
  10. mwdenko

    mwdenko New Member

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    I just got all the work done. 3.5 trigger kit. New ejector and smooth trigger and extended slide release.
     
  11. silver04v

    silver04v New Member

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    And? How it's it?
     
  12. mwdenko

    mwdenko New Member

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    The armorer was perplexed with the biting of the finger. In the process of swaping the trigger parts he noticed I had a NY Trigger. Then he said it all made sence.
    Aparetnly the NY Trigger is around 8lbs + depending on make. So when it would reset it was smacking my finger pretty hard.

    I will be heading out to the range on Thursday. So I will give a report then. The armorer wasn't so sure about the change in ejector. He made this change for free. Asked me to report to him and if it didn't work he would swap them back.

    See you Thursday ...

    Here are a few pics. a normal trigger spring and the NY trigger spring...
     

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  13. mwdenko

    mwdenko New Member

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    Went to the range and put 100 rounds through the 27 yesterday. Man a 3.5 trigger kit makes a huge difference. The ejector didn't mar the brass as much. There was a little dent in them. But, all in all I think these modifications made all the difference in the world. My problems have been solved.
     
  14. silver04v

    silver04v New Member

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    Got the call from my glock armorer that the gen 4 ejectors came in. I was taking brass to the face before. They installed the updated one and they threw on a extended slide release lever for free also. Something I hadn't planned on doing but for free, why not ;). Glad I said yes to, it feels nice. I'll be testing the new parts on Sunday! I'm excited. This with the new sights the gun feels like a whole new piece.
     
  15. I got my G27 in late January and it had the 28927 ejector already in it.
     
  16. voyager4520

    voyager4520 New Member

    Gen4's with a test-fire date after 10/10/2011 will have the new ejector installed. Current production Gen3's still have the old ejectors.
    If you continue to experience erratic ejection, it likely means the extractor is out-of-spec and should be replaced. Keep the new ejector in the gun and replace the extractor.
     
  17. I knew that. You stated:

    The 28926 ejector isn't available to the public yet, if you're a Glock Certified Armorer you can order one, or you can ask an Armorer in your area to order one for you and install it for you. The ejector comes by itself, so you have to remove the trigger housing, pull the old 1882 ejector out, and insert the new 28926 ejector into it.

    You posted this on 3-8-12. Which can make people confused. Can you see where this is going? I just didn't want other people to be confused is all. Thanks.
     
  18. silver04v

    silver04v New Member

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    Fired off a hundred round today with the new ejector in it. All I can say it's I love this gun. It ran perfect with perfect ejections. New sights are great, extended slide release is great and the gun is running flawlessly. So excited not to be taking shells to the face anymore.
     
  19. voyager4520

    voyager4520 New Member

    I just received a Gen4 .40 trigger housing from glockparts.com and it has the 28926 ejector in it. The ejector doesn't have a number on it, but it is the 28926 ejector.
     
  20. thanks2macdonald

    thanks2macdonald New Member

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    Thanks for the detail disassembly video. I would like to save as favorite on YouTube. Do you have the creator's user name.