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My email to Fred Meyers jewelers was as follows:

What is your store policy on customers that have a permit to carry a firearm, would they be allowed into into your store? Local and state laws apply. I would really enjoy giving a company business that respects the second amendment. -James
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Their response:

Thank you for contacting us, we are glad to hear from you. In the state of Michigan, you are permitted to have a firearm in our store, as long as you have a CPL (Concealed Pistol License).

So I'm not sure about this company in other states, but I know I'll be giving them my business here in Michigan.
You guys have a great day.
 

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Thanks for sharing. I'll be headed there when I need to buy a shiny for the wife to placate her regarding my shooting addiction. :D
 

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Awesome. I was ecstatic to share this considering sterling jewelers inc (Jared's, Kay's, and some others) Don't allow firearms. My wife doesn't seem to understand the "no firearm policy" and seriousness that follows. Nobody will own up to your safety except yourself! Criminal comes in and starts shooting I'm not going to rely on Barney fife at the door ( that probably can't hit a barn ) to keep my family safe.
 

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Meyer's is a good place. I actually had my G19 on their counter and in a few employee's hands during a trip there when some things came up in discussion.

Don't bring that up though, the boss wasn't in that day lol
 

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SHOOTER13 said:
What prompted the email in the first place ...?
I wanted to purchase a pretty ring for my wife, but Jared's doesn't allow firearms in their store. So I emailed Fred's to see if they allowed it BEFORE I even stepped in their doors. After the email we went and picked out a ring and brought it home that day. Makes me feel better knowing I won't be scrutinized for carrying in their store. Although I didn't drive past to see if there was a sign or not... It was easier to email.
 

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I'm guessing concealed, but if not be careful. MSP puts out a letter a few times a year telling the officers open carry is legal and they never seem to get it.

Don't miss living there, but I'll be in GR around the first.
 

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SHOOTER13 said:
Gotcha...and congrats.

One more question: Do you carry open or concealed...?
I mostly carry concealed due to the fact that I'm a maintenance supervisor and I sometimes run into tenants while out shopping locally. That is not something that needs to be discussed openly in my complex. (it's rough that's no joke)
I recently purchased the sport combat holster from Glock. I like it, and it's semi concealable. It has a time and place. Whenever I'm out it's concealed.
Don't think I'm against open carry though. I'm all for it. Guns are like cell phones, in the beginning it was a huge deal to have one. Now it's a huge deal to NOT have one. If everyone saw guns everyday nobody would make an issue of it.
End of rant. Lol.
 

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nukinfuts29 said:
I'm guessing concealed, but if not be careful. MSP puts out a letter a few times a year telling the officers open carry is legal and they never seem to get it.

Don't miss living there, but I'll be in GR around the first.
Thanks! That's a great thing to know MSP sometimes forgets. Most MSP I've met have been great. I'll look you up sometime when your in GR... It's not that far.
If I was a MSP, I would feel more comfortable to an extent conducting a traffic stop with someone with a CPL than one with out. At least I know they aren't a felon! The same goes for open carry even. Can't be a felon to have a firearm either!
 

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nukinfuts29 said:
I'm guessing concealed, but if not be careful. MSP puts out a letter a few times a year telling the officers open carry is legal and they never seem to get it.

Don't miss living there, but I'll be in GR around the first.
We received a letter from our PA telling us to not even make contact with open carry people. If they were brandishing the firearm, then obviously we need to deal with it, but just carrying it is not a reason for contact.
 

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RockoutwithmyGlockout said:
Thanks! That's a great thing to know MSP sometimes forgets. Most MSP I've met have been great. I'll look you up sometime when your in GR... It's not that far.
If I was a MSP, I would feel more comfortable to an extent conducting a traffic stop with someone with a CPL than one with out. At least I know they aren't a felon! The same goes for open carry even. Can't be a felon to have a firearm either!
You LEGALLY can't be a felon to have a firearm... Lol!!! I love to see people with CPLs. Most don't carry in my area, but a few do. I have never had an issue on a stop and I have even asked if they are carrying, how they like their carry gun... :)
 

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We received a letter from our PA telling us to not even make contact with open carry people. If they were brandishing the firearm, then obviously we need to deal with it, but just carrying it is not a reason for contact.
Yea it was becoming a real problem. False arrests, illegal charges, bogged down court dockets to deal with dismissals, it was crazy. They put the memo out every year in January, and then during the year if someone causes an issue by not reading the first one.

I had a MSP (before I had a CPL) tell me I was open carry illegally because it was "not clearly visible". That went away real fast when in his own report he noted that he saw my Glock from approx 65 feet away. My attorney asked him if he had X-Ray superman vision to see an obstructed pistol clearly from 65 feet.
 

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Yea it was becoming a real problem. False arrests, illegal charges, bogged down court dockets to deal with dismissals, it was crazy. They put the memo out every year in January, and then during the year if someone causes an issue by not reading the first one.

I had a MSP (before I had a CPL) tell me I was open carry illegally because it was "not clearly visible". That went away real fast when in his own report he noted that he saw my Glock from approx 65 feet away. My attorney asked him if he had X-Ray superman vision to see an obstructed pistol clearly from 65 feet.
You'll love this... I've been told by a Troop that's flap style field holster could be considered "concealed" if he wanted to arrest for it... Seriously ***?
 

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ckuenzer331 said:
You'll love this... I've been told by a Troop that's flap style field holster could be considered "concealed" if he wanted to arrest for it... Seriously ***?
In MI the open carry law requires full unobstructed view of the entire grip of the gun. The barrel can be concealed but thats it.
 

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Make sure to also note that the handgun must be in a holster outside the waist. Shirt, or coat cannot cover any part of it. If the barrel was covered by the holster it's fine. But not tucked in from what I understand.
 

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Make sure to also note that the handgun must be in a holster outside the waist. Shirt, or coat cannot cover any part of it. If the barrel was covered by the holster it's fine. But not tucked in from what I understand.
You can carry it in a pocket holster so long as the entire grip is visible. That's how I carried it most of the time.
 
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