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G26 Gen 4 in Bladetech Phantom IWB holster
CRKT Sting
Surefire G2 LED w/ 125 lumen LED
If its a work day I'll have my bag with me with a first aid kit and an ERG (I'm a hazmat tech) :)
 

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Glock 22 15+1
Extra mag 15
Pepper spray
Keys: home, work, truck, Swiss army knife, LED light, whistle, fire starter, .50bmg kubaton.
Inhaler (asthma)
Wallet
Cold steel spartan knife
Para cord bracelet
Cabelas riggers belt
(Holsters and bracelet are homemade)
A friend of mine has Asthma, and will not carry or use Pepper Spray because it will cause him more trouble and he'd be down and out. Something to think about.
 

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Aside from a gun, I usually carry a spare magazine, tactical flashlight, multi-tool, and cell phone. I also have a Swiss Army knife and a cigarette lighter (I don't smoke) that go pretty much everywhere with me.
 

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everyone should carry a knife also. Flashlight when possible.

I heard pepper spray or something less than lethal because if you have to shoot the jury will see that you used less than lethal before you shot. Personally I think it depends on the situation. I get a split second to react to something that they have a ton of time to think over and pull apart.
My feeling is if you use any form of non-lethal force a lawyer can argue that either lethal was not needed, or that you should have been provided adequate time to escape after using non-lethal force.

Anything non-lethal can be twisted into second guessing and a million other things. If you genuinely believe your life is in danger, shoot them.
 

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My carry:
G22C or S&W 915
Dual mag pouch usually stays in the truck, unless I am in a bad neighborhood(I don't go to bad neighborhoods I have no need)
Phone
Wallet
Keys
Surefire 6p
Blackhawk CQD Model 1 type E or various others, I could waste a page talking about
"Tactical Diaper Bag" (I got two toddlers lol) with all sorts of cool stuff
 

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Gun, spare mag, knife, cell. If I'm going to be out at night or think I might, then I add a flashlight. I always keep...I think I have 3 now...in the car. Oh and a pen...can't forget the pen!
 

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Tear gas does come in a defence spray form. It is actually a mix of pepper spray and CS tear gas. No special training is required and there are no restrictions on it. I carry a bigger can of the same stuff when I am on duty, as a security guard. It sprays as a stream, due to its formulation, unless it hits something directly, it is basically inert. This is because tear gas doesn't have to be an air born smoke. It works the same way as a liquid but it requires a direct hit. Also, it only affects the person I shoot, saving me from an asthma attack. It also has a UV marking dye in it to later identify the perp.
 

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blackwolffcf said:
Tear gas does come in a defence spray form. It is actually a mix of pepper spray and CS tear gas. No special training is required and there are no restrictions on it. I carry a bigger can of the same stuff when I am on duty, as a security guard. It sprays as a stream, due to its formulation, unless it hits something directly, it is basically inert. This is because tear gas doesn't have to be an air born smoke. It works the same way as a liquid but it requires a direct hit. Also, it only affects the person I shoot, saving me from an asthma attack. It also has a UV marking dye in it to later identify the perp.
Where can i get one of those cans? Im in AZ myself...
 

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2008 dangerous weapons control law
Chapter 4
Article 1
12403.7. Notwithstanding any other law, any person may purchase, possess, or use tear gas and tear gas weapons for the projection or release of tear gas if the tear gas and tear gas weapons are used solely for self-defense purposes, subject to the following requirements:
(a) No person convicted of a felony or any crime involving an assault under the laws of the United States, of the State of California, or any other state, government, or country or convicted of misuse of tear gas under subdivision (g) shall purchase, possess, or use tear gas or tear gas weapons.
(b) No person who is addicted to any narcotic drug shall purchase, possess, or use tear gas or tear gas weapons.
(c) No person shall sell or furnish any tear gas or tear gas weapon to a minor.
(d) No person who is a minor shall purchase, possess, or use tear gas or tear gas weapons.
(e)(1) No person shall purchase, possess, or use any tear gas weapon that expels a projectile, or that expels the tear gas by any method other than an aerosol spray, or that contains more than 2.5 ounces net weight of aerosol spray.
(2) Every tear gas container and tear gas weapon that may be lawfully purchased, possessed, and used pursuant to this section shall have a label that states: "WARNING: The use of this substance or device for any purpose other than self defense is a crime under the law. The contents are dangerous--use with care."
(3) After January 1, 1984, every tear gas container and tear gas weapon that may be lawfully purchased, possessed, and used pursuant to this section shall have a label that discloses the date on which the useful life of the tear gas weapon expires.
(4) Every tear gas container and tear gas weapon that may be lawfully purchased pursuant to this section shall be accompanied at the time of purchase by printed instructions for use.
(f) Effective March 1, 1994, every tear gas container and tear gas weapon that may be lawfully purchased, possessed, and used pursuant to this section shall be accompanied by an insert including directions for use, first aid information, safety and storage information, and explanation of the legal ramifications of improper use of the tear gas container or tear gas product.
(g) Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment, except that if the use is against a peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, engaged in the performance of his or her official duties and the person committing the offense knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer, the offense is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months or two or three years or by a fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment.
 

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My standard EDC is:
Glock 23 in a Galco King tuk
CRKT - Ken Onion design w/ assist
Blackberry

If I am somewhere I am doing a ton of walking/hiking I usually tote around a Maxpedition fatboy versipack. lets me carry extra mags, leatherman, first-aid kit. I use it for festivals, beach hiking, etc.
 
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