Do You Have a Fully Loaded Magazine?

Discussion in 'Conceal & Open Carry' started by Glock8856, Feb 3, 2012.

  1. Glock8856

    Glock8856 New Member

    Question for the more expert...

    I carry one in the chamber but never have my mag fully loaded. I was told by many people, including some officers...

    That not to fully load your mag, for example if your mag can have 15 rounds, you should only carry 12-13 rounds. This is to not wear off your spring over time, especially if you don't go to the range often and leave your rounds inside the mag a long time.

    True?? What do you guys think?
  2. Donn

    Donn Active Member

    Know guys from both schools, some who regularly unload and clean their mags, others who load and forget. Personally, I load light. If the mag's 12 rd capacity, I load 10. It's an old Army habit. We never loaded more than 18 in a 20rd M-16 mag. Load 20 and you would have a guaranteed malfunction.

  3. clay7

    clay7 New Member

    At the academy we were trained to carry full mag with one in chamber.
  4. bhale187

    bhale187 New Member Supporter

    Fully loaded all the time.
  5. Oddball Gunner

    Oddball Gunner New Member

    Fully loaded +1...

    Springs are cheap (and easy) to replace.
  6. Fully loaded, anyone who says different is an idiot. Why? It costs ~20 to buy a second or third magazine, and leave one empty. Once a month of every other month, swap the one you are using with the empty. This means every other month your magazines are empty for an entire month.

    Besides no matter what, mags and mag parts are CHEAP. Ask them if loosing their lives over a few bullets to save a few bucks is worth it.
  7. Glock8856

    Glock8856 New Member

    Make sense... Thanks for the reply
  8. Kmurray96

    Kmurray96 Well-Known Member Supporter

    In the DOC, unless you have a specialty job such as, SOG, training or Central Transport, you're not issued a weapon. In towers the mags are loaded to capacity, but unloaded for count each shift. Unscheduled trips, escapes and mobile patrols are issued as needed, empty mags and ammo trays standard. We load our own. So, the springs in our mags are pretty well flexed and relieved on a regular basis. Good thing. Our arsenals are getting rather old. All of our H&K USP's have been cycled through the training department. All have had thousands of rounds through them and in them.

    I believe the constant use of the mags are what has accounted for the longevity of our weapons. That being said, we are starting to see some mag problems but because of maintenance not breakage.

    Years ago, I did notice a problem feeding with my old Beretta that I owned for 20 years. Only had it with one of my mags and that was the one I used to keep max loaded in a dresser draw for home back-up. None of the other mags, occasionally reloaded, ever caused a FTL.

    Back then eBay wasn't really in play yet so the mag was discarded. A very expensive proposition today.

    I recommend a full mag. But I also recommend you cycle your mags at least once a month. And if you're a range rat. Don't bother at all. Mark your mags so you can track which is which. Keep them clean. Spring steel will rust, unless stainless (our problem with the dept. mags). But if you clean them, go easy on any oil. Spring steel is also porous and oil will seep into the metal. To much oil and you can shorten the service life of that spring. No need to oil stainless springs. It's a case of a little is a lot. And oiled springs will catch dirt and grit which will affect loading.

    If you have a FTL, check your grip first. If you have another, clean the mag. Another would indicate a new spring. A relatively inexpensive item from outlets like

    Here's a test for you. Make sure your gun and magazine is EMPTY. Insert the EMPTY mag. Turn the gun upside down. Now hit the mag release. The mag should pop up about at least 1/4-1/2 inch. If everything has already been cleaned, replace the spring.

    Also if you bought a used Glock, especially a Gen2, I'd recommend replacing at least one spring each paycheck if money is tight.

    If your going to own something that you might depend on for your life, make sure it's dependable.
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2012
  9. jonm61

    jonm61 New Member

    This is, now, an old wive's tale. It may have been true a few decades ago, but metal technology has greatly improved and this is not true.

    The only magazine spring failures I've had is one that I somehow managed to leave loaded for 9 or 10 years in the safe. It still worked, just not very well and it got replaced. The others were all on a Walther P99 that I bought used. The gun was only 2 years old. I had no idea on the history of it, though it looked to have very little use. All 3 magazines had springs that failed to lock back the slide on empty. They fed fine and worked perfectly otherwise, so they probably aren't really "failures" per se.

    I always have a fully loaded mag in the gun and my back ups are fully loaded as well. If I wanted a 10 round magazine, I'd buy one; my 12 round magazines get 12 rounds put in them. My magazines stay loaded all the time, at least for whatever guns are in current rotation. If the gun isn't carried or on HD duty, it sits empty in the safe and its magazines sit empty in the magazine box.
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2012
  10. jfirecops

    jfirecops New Member

    No need for this because someone disagrees with you
  11. GrubKiller

    GrubKiller New Member

    fully loaded +1 in the chamber
  12. chaplainjosh

    chaplainjosh New Member

    Fully loaded here... 10+1 all the time
  13. Braz

    Braz New Member

    Glock 23, I have 13+1 at all times. No spring issue's in any of my Glock pistols including my EDC. Don't know if I would do it in a 1911 ! Ha ha ha
  14. mwdenko

    mwdenko New Member

    Fully loaded + 1.

    I think of it this way....

    I don't fill my gas tank 3/4 when I go to the gas station. So, why would I leave 1 or 2 behind in my magazine. It takes 17 I carry 17....

    CJKOLCUN New Member

    Fully loaded +1 for me.
  16. SHOOTER13

    SHOOTER13 RETIRED MODERATOR Sponsor Lifetime Supporting Member

    10+1 in my G30 SF...two more fully loaded magazines with on me, one in the jeep.
  17. chaplainjosh

    chaplainjosh New Member

    10+1 in my G26 plus 2 10rd mags with me all the time.
  18. Dark Knight

    Dark Knight Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator Lifetime Supporting Member

    Fully loaded plus one in the chamber here
  19. dough1801

    dough1801 New Member

    10+1 at all times in my G-30
  20. G-23

    G-23 Premium Member

    Glock spring material is very good. Load to capacity and keep it there.

    When doing mag cleaning, NEVER stretch the spring out!