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Hi guys,

I always wonder what the CCW regulations are for parks such as Disney, SeaWorld, Busch Gardens, etc.
I am mainly interested in FL parks, but would love to hear about the ones in your area as well.

Is it legal to carry at those places?
Do they have metal detectors?

Thanks!
 

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Here ia a guy who went to Disney and is a CCW specialist. As promised during my recent visit to Disney World I paid special attention to security looked for details and information that would affect CHL holders. We visited all the major venues and the only difference in security I noted between venues was that glass containers are not allowed into Animal Kingdom due to concerns with the animals and broken glass. Everything else below appeared to apply to all venues:

First off, with regard to Disney’s security personnel. Those that I saw appeared to be either retired law enforcement or current / prior military (Guard/ Reserve). No way to be sure of course, but if you’ve ever been in you know the “look”. While they may not be Jack Bauer I suspect that Disney hires fairly high quality people. Their entire operation was very high-class in all aspects: clean, infrastructure well maintained, polite and helpful personnel, etc. There’s no reason to believe they would scrimp on security.

Despite the number of visitors the security situation for Disney World is actually pretty good. It is isolated from anything else. To get to most of the major venues you must park at some distance and take Disney transportation to the venue. The Magic Kingdom, for example, is only accessible by boat or monorail. This breaks visitors up into manageable packets. If someone detonates a bomb on a monorail or ferry the number of possible casualties is relatively small. While the bag check at the entrances to the parks seemed fairly cursory and there was no search of a visitor’s person I don’t think their security is really geared to finding individual handguns. The security and transportation measures ensure that no long arms or large explosive devices can be brought in which would seem to be the major security threat. Maintenance operations are conducted when the park is closed. Thus outside access for large trucks and non-Disney support personnel is restricted to hours when the park is the least attractive target. I would also assume that, given they spend tens of thousands per night on fireworks, that there is provision for response to almost any conceivable threat. I know from an acquaintance that there were civil defense plans for visitors during the Cold War, and that those plans have morphed into response plans for WMD threats. Given Disney’s budget and the fact that they have to be high on some terrorist’s wish list I would be very surprised if Disney didn’t have organic or contracted assets to deal with bomb threats, active shooters or any other imaginable emergency available on site. I do know they have their own fire department.

With regard to personal firearms, I talked with a security guard at Magic Kingdom for a bit. He was in his mid-20’s, and stated he was an MP and member of the Florida Army National Guard when asked about his experience and Disney’s hiring standards/ procedures. He stated that the licensed carrying of firearms inside the gates to any venues was not illegal, but getting caught would get you expelled from the property (without refund). The Disney hotels and resorts on Disney property require that firearms be checked with the front desk and stored in the hotel’s main safe NOT in the rooms or room safes. Day visitors could leave their firearms in their vehicles or notify a security guard who would assist them in checking the firearm into the security station at the main gate where it would be kept in an individual locker to which the visitor kept the key. He also stated that in the two years he had worked there he had never personally seen anyone avail themselves of the service, though some people apparently do. He stated that ONLY LEO personnel with jurisdiction on the property and currently on official business were allowed to carry firearms on Disney property. I did see several county sheriff vehicles on roads on the property. I suspect they pay the county for extra patrols much like many POA/HOAs do. Despite the apparent “weaponless” policy I would be very surprised, as noted above, if Disney does not have some sort of armed response available on-site.

The only security checks were at the entrances to the main venues: Magic Kingdom, Epcot, Animal Kingdom, etc. The resorts and hotels and the transportation between them and the venues had no security at all. Examining this it would seem that there is a hole in their firearms policy. You can be ON the property, but not in a gated venue, and armed as long as you don't leave your weapon in your room or attempt to enter one of the venues. Also as stated above the gate security and bag check is vanishingly unlikely to discover a handgun on your person unless you’re a complete idiot or extremely unlucky. There IS the issue of keeping the weapon secure on the various rides.

In summary I think Disney does as well as can be expected given their challenges. While it would be fairly easy to get a weapon into the venues I think it would have minimal value and probably be more hassle to keep concealed than it was worth. If I WAS going to try it SmartCarry is probably the way to go.
 

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They have no gun policies... And "security" at the gates. Busch gardens is an absolute no go because they serve alcohol everywhere. From my understanding of Florida laws, cant cc if their is alcohol consumption on site...
 

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No metal detectors at the Florida theme parks. I don't recall any signs either. Just remember if your gun falls out of a holster while you're on a roller coaster you will probably have a problem, lol.
 

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This is all I could find in the Busch Gardens policySecurity Procedures
Busch Gardens Tampa Bay has increased security procedures, which may result in slight delays while entering the park. As a part of this process:
All bags, backpacks and packages are subject to inspection prior to entering the park.
As a reminder, the following items are not permitted to be brought into Busch Gardens for the safety of our animals and our guests: weapons, knives, any other type of sharp objects, straws, large hard or soft coolers and any hazardous items or materials.
Please leave any unnecessary articles secured within your vehicle to expedite your entry into the park.
Busch Gardens is not responsible for fire, theft, damage or loss of vehicle including articles left within.
 

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They have no gun policies... And "security" at the gates. Busch gardens is an absolute no go because they serve alcohol everywhere. From my understanding of Florida laws, cant cc if their is alcohol consumption on site...
Wrong, It has to be over a certain percent of the business, then you have to be able to consume there as well. Basically only full bars.
 

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akvs22 said:
No metal detectors at the Florida theme parks. I don't recall any signs either. Just remember if your gun falls out of a holster while you're on a roller coaster you will probably have a problem, lol.
But rest assured you glock wont go off!!! Lol
 

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They consume alcohols everywhere in Busch gardens, every corner has a bar.
It is not the base of the business. The business has to be like 75% bar or somewhere in that range.
 

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Thank you guys.
I always think about the choices I have to protect myself and my family.
I guess we have to trust Disney and maybe carry just a pocket knife.
 

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akvs22 said:
Just remember if your gun falls out of a holster while you're on a roller coaster you will probably have a problem, lol.
That would scary and crazy.
Carrying in the park is one thing, but on a rollercoaster? LOL.
 

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I'll never carry at a theme park. I find my firearms to be to uncomfortable when I'm riding roller coasters and such.
 

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The scopes are in transit!!!! Lol
Never really been a fan of theme parks...
Florida law....Places you cannot carry your gun:

any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05
any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station
any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse
any courtroom*
any polling place
any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district
any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof
any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms
any school administration building
any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption*
any elementary or secondary school facility
any area technical center
any college or university facility*
inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport*
any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law ****ANY FEDERAL BUILDING**** THIS INCLUDES POST OFFICES, THE BUILDINGS AT NATIONAL PARKS. YOU MAY CARRY AT THE PARK, BUT NOT IN THE BUILDINGS. restrictions apply.

1. any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption** Yes you may carry into a restaurant that serves liquor, but you can't sit at the bar, nor can you enter a bar only. You may enter a liquor store only if alcohol is consumed off premisis.
 

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dutchs said:
Florida law....Places you cannot carry your gun:

any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05
any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station
any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse
any courtroom*
any polling place
any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district
any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof
any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms
any school administration building
any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption*
any elementary or secondary school facility
any area technical center
any college or university facility*
inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport*
any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law ****ANY FEDERAL BUILDING**** THIS INCLUDES POST OFFICES, THE BUILDINGS AT NATIONAL PARKS. YOU MAY CARRY AT THE PARK, BUT NOT IN THE BUILDINGS. restrictions apply.

1. any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption** Yes you may carry into a restaurant that serves liquor, but you can't sit at the bar, nor can you enter a bar only. You may enter a liquor store only if alcohol is consumed off premisis.
I would say that means you can't carry at Busch gardens the whole place is a bar!!! You can drink anywhere!!! :eek:
 
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