I've seen and heard of businesses posting no firearm rules, if they do so does that make it illegal to carry on there premisea?
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This is just not true. It absolutely depends on the law in the state you are in as to whether these signs carry the force of law or not.Yes. All states allow for a premise (business or private) to post a very specific sign that has to be posted it in a very obvious location. If the sign meets state laws (size, font, color, explicit wording), then it is illegal for you to carry.
Each state has its own laws.
armedmissouri said:This is just not true. It absolutely depends on the law in the state you are in as to whether these signs carry the force of law or not./QUOTE]
Dude chill out, 'just not true' comes across very aggressive. So I missed on state, sorry!
Allow me to correct myself, "MOST states".
Besides, all states do allow business to refuse service to anybody they want, and if you come onto their property and they tell you to leave, you risk a trespassing charge if you don't bail root sweet.
As far as that goes, you can simply leave your gun in your car, because there is obviously something you need at that store, or you can drive around trying to find another store that sells the same product who doesn't wish to protect their establishment from a false report of MWG and the likely emptying of all customers that will happen in that case.
You have to ask yourself: convenience or 'constitutional rights', and how paranoid you are about your odds of getting involved in a robbery.
And before anybody says 'better to have and not need, then need and not have', how many times in your life, and the lives of everyone you know, was it ever needed?
I'm 35, was in the Navy where I boarded ships in the gulf, and in all my life and the lives of all my close friends (who were not in actual combat) and family, there has never been an actual need.
5 minutes in and out of a store, you have to evaluate the probabilities. I think it's worth just leaving it, the odds of my car getting broken into are pretty low too!
Unless it's a ghetto/high crime neighborhood, then why are you shopping there anyways.
How many times does it take?armedmissouri said:And before anybody says 'better to have and not need, then need and not have', how many times in your life, and the lives of everyone you know, was it ever needed?
I carry all the time in case I need it once in my life. If I have it that one time, then the rest of the time was worth it.
I couldn't agree more. Why should you ALWAYS carry? Here are 160 pages filled with reasons to always have a gun at your disposal.How many times does it take?
I carry all the time in case I need it once in my life. If I have it that one time, then the rest of the time was worth it.
http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen.aspx
Thanks.Happysniper1 said:"It is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it"
If you're not comfortable with it concealed in the passenger compartment, lock it up in the trunk (assuming you have a trunk). I've never experienced a car break in where the trunk was searched: they're usually after something in plain sight.Glock23-AZ said:What are your thoughts on keeping a gun locked in the car during work? My work doesn't allow me to carry weapons in the building but I want to have the gun close to me as possible.
Ya in AZ we can have it concealed in a parking lot. I plan on keeping it locked in my glove box, thank you for your advice.PettyOfficer said:If you're not comfortable with it concealed in the passenger compartment, lock it up in the trunk (assuming you have a trunk). I've never experienced a car break in where the trunk was searched: they're usually after something in plain sight.
My work used to not-allow guns even in the parking lot, but god bless Texas, a law was passed that removed the liability from the property owner and now I can keep my gun in my car as long as its concealed: still no firearms in the building. Even our lame security officers don't have guns, just a radio that goes to a dispatch that can call the police.
If you must leave a gun in your vehicle, it should be unloaded and locked up somehow. I prefer this device or a similar product.What are your thoughts on keeping a gun locked in the car during work? My work doesn't allow me to carry weapons in the building but I want to have the gun close to me as possible.
That is absolutely right, Lxlate, even in the US. Let's face it, when you OC, and there is a bad guy around who is hungry enough for it, in his eyes he does not see you the person, he sees a gun on somebody. Just the way it is...In south africa if your license states self defene you can OC, i dont recommend that lets face it criminals will do anything for a free gun