ar15 bolt carrier question??

Discussion in 'General Firearm Forum' started by shiflet, Mar 17, 2012.

  1. shiflet

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    Del-ton vs. Colt...

    Can anyone tell a difference between the two of these???

    I was told the Del-ton would be much "cheaper" quality...

    I dunno I don't see a difference!

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  2. Happysniper1

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    The one on the left seems to be made of a thinner material than the one on the right, which also seems to have the upper cutout deeper into the carrier piece and seems to be better machined. The gas key seems to be staked sufficiently on both. Wish the lighting was better towards the bottom of the picture.
     

  3. shiflet

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    Is this better? So which one do you think is which?

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  4. Happysniper1

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    One is new, the other is not. I think I know which is which, heh-heh-heh
     
  5. shiflet

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    Haha valid. But which one looked better machined?
     
  6. Id say the one without wear marks is the colt, had the ar.had.a colt.carrier to.begin with why need to change :)
     
  7. Trotac

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    I would definitely say that the on the right is the Colt... The staking looks much more "professional". With that said the other one looks like it would certainly hold too. The Colt stuff gets a lot of extra testing done to it, since they build and proof their rifles to "mil spec". As far as know, Del-Ton (and a host of others) do not take those extra steps.
     
  8. shiflet

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    Actually I heard the same but the one on the right is out of a Del-ton. The other is a colt
     
  9. Happysniper1

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    Thought so, but then again, I have "insider information".

    Hey, Shiflet, check your messages!
     
  10. Trotac

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    Well... I stand corrected! I just finished up AR Armorer school last week, and Colt did not get a lot of props on their most current production... Looks like that might be proof of why.
     
  11. Happysniper1

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    Heh...the Del-ton was the newer one, the Colt was the older one.
     
  12. EvilD

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    I heard Colt makes some Del Ton parts, I have a Del Ton upper, had I heard that before I bought it, I would of bought something else.
     
  13. Happysniper1

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    @EvilD:

    Can you elaborate?
     
  14. shiflet

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    This colt is actually several years old! Non the less I am very happy with my Del-yon so far. Also I've heard that del-ton started out manufacturing parts for larger companies before they decided to do their own.
     
  15. shiflet

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    I can't stand to hear the ar forums talk crap unless it's a colt or a rra or a whatever they think is the best because its the most expensive! If it doesn't break the bank they will tell you its not worth it
     
  16. EvilD

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    They aren't any thing special, the one I fired were far from good guns, and no, they weren't military ones, had a friend have his Delta HBAR blow up with factory ammo and Colt said, sorry but its not our problem.
     
  17. Happysniper1

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    Yeow! Was it a barrel obstruction?

    Yep, absolutely, which is why I build mine from components. Admittedly, components that I have found to be reliable (and not the most expensive, either!), and I don't know if anyone has noticed, I do not use Colt parts! heh-heh-heh
     
  18. EvilD

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    Upper came apart, not sure what caused it.
     
  19. Happysniper1

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    Unfortunately, any number of things can cause the upper to come apart (aka, Go-Kaboom), anything from bad metallurgy to faulty ammunition to a bore obstruction. Causes could range from sub-par component quality, to lack of maintenance leading to dangerous overpressures when firing, to bad ammunition. It is not unknown for firearms to go kaboom on factory ammo, and there have been a number of recalls on factory ammo that have been found to have overcharges.... guess how they learned of the overcharges? Yep, consumer reports of kabooms.

    Sadly, unless more information can be gleaned about incidents like these, the simplest (and most common) conclusion is to blame bad parts. This, however, is not always the case. While it is usually not done in a deliberate attempt to cast aspersion upon (fill in the blank) brand, that is usually the net result.

    I would urge that potential buyers do their research, which includes searching for testimonials (both good and bad), and asking for recommendations (on forums such as these), as the OP has done, and to try their best to separate the the brand-bashing from the nuggets of truth. Not easy, I admit. Especially in regards to firearms (witness the endless bashing of Glocks, Hi-Points, hollow-point vs ball, 1911 vs Glock, and the neverending 9mm vs .45 debates and name-calling).

    I personally know nothing about Del-Tons, had never even heard the brand until last week, from the OP, and reserve my comments until I have heard first-hand information from an owner of same. It would behoove others to do the same.

    EvilD, I mean no offense. Your friend probably hates the brand with every fiber of his being, but it would be very helpful for us if you could get more information from him, and share this information. Thanks.

    Cheers!
     
  20. Glocked

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    I've never owned a del-ton, but I have seen them a lot recently. There is an older gentlemen that owns a gun store close to my home that speaks highly of them. He did mention that del-ton's customer service is stellar. From what I understand they are a small, family owned/operated company in NC.