I have it on my 17 & 26. My hands sweat a lot and even with them both being Gen4's I still didnt feel I was gettin a good solid grip. Put it on my 17 first and loved it from the get go. Just recently put it on my 26 and it feels great. And with just 2 fingers on the grip I feel like I have a real solid hold. Talons werent for me, and I didnt like the rubber grips. This imo was just what I needed. My 2 cents anyway.