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http://www.heraldonline.com/2012/06...-sergeant.html#storylink=omni_popular#wgt=pop


Not sure that I have ever read or heard of a Glock model accidentally discharging. Now when it is put into human hands, of course there is the possibility of an accident but really he made the choice to pull the trigger. Luckily it was a pc monitor and no one was injured.
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EMSeight said:
http://www.heraldonline.com/2012/06/26/4074718/york-county-sheriffs-sergeant.html#storylink=omni_popular#wgt=pop

Not sure that I have ever read or heard of a Glock model accidentally discharging. Now when it is put into human hands, of course there is the possibility of an accident but really he made the choice to pull the trigger. Luckily it was a pc monitor and no one was injured.
This is a flat out negligent discharge. He didn't check the chamber.
no accident here
The story says the gun was pointed in a safe direction...right! Safe because no one was at the computer!

At least the guy took responsibility.
Stupidity across the board! No offense to the boys in blue, but most stories of negligent discharge are officer involved. This was no accident. His finger was on the trigger and he pulled it. Accident is if the trigger was caught on something. At least he said it was his fault.
Always always check the chamber indicator and or pull the slide back a little bit to see if there is a round in the chamber..

Agreed no accident here just a stupid mistake.
Glockmaster said:
Always always check the chamber indicator and or pull the slide back a little bit to see if there is a round in the chamber..

Agreed no accident here just a stupid mistake.
Yup... But I don't trust the indicator either... Press check all the way for me.
Once upon a deployment the only NDs were the guys with the little green hats. Army changed thinking a long time ago to give up the term AD and replace with ND.
chilly613 said:
Yup... But I don't trust the indicator either... Press check all the way for me.
Agreed. Whatever works for you. Just double check the chamber. I always take the slide back a little bit as well..:)
Didn't read the story because I already know what I'm going to post, no such thing as a accidental discharge, they are all Negligent.
Opinions are like belly buttons. Everyone has one. Here is mine. It is all semantics. The main thing is no one was hurt. The next time you have an at fault fender bender be sure to tell the officer and your insurance agent about your negligent action.
Maybe he was doing his first "desk pop!" It's a real thing right?
maybe he was doing his first "desk pop!" it's a real thing right?
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klf said:
Opinions are like belly buttons. Everyone has one. Here is mine. It is all semantics. The main thing is no one was hurt. The next time you have an at fault fender bender be sure to tell the officer and your insurance agent about your negligent action.
Yes, semantics, but if we are going to make an analogy with cars, it would be like rolling a stop sign, running a red light, tailgating, etc... ie not obeying the law, or in this case following the appropriate safety procedures.
Opinions are like belly buttons. Everyone has one. Here is mine. It is all semantics. The main thing is no one was hurt. The next time you have an at fault fender bender be sure to tell the officer and your insurance agent about your negligent action.
I can guarantee if I ever get in a fender bender or major collision it will be because of somebody else's negligence.
Man that's a huge mental lapse right there. How does one not simply feel the weight of rounds in the magazine before loading? It like triples the weight. I think the article said this was new york, the same place I read an NRA article about how the officers have those 12lb new york style trigger springs to prevent accidental discharges. Don't know if every department has those but it's a clear sign that the nypd has no business carrying a firearm. If they aren't responsible enough to take initiative learning safety then at least teach them. I don't think many cops train much though, at least from how it sounds with the Denver pd. my sister in law is a detective and can hardly be dragged in to shoot and same with most of them she said. For their own safety they need to train a lot. One of my military friends can't even shoot a handgun without jamming it due to limp wristing every other shot. How was he never trained to shoot a glock but has to carry one most of the time??? Absolutely blows my mind. He literally can't even load the mags. How does this even happen in our own military and police departments?
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I can guarantee if I ever get in a fender bender or major collision it will be because of somebody else's negligence.
Semantically, there is a such a thing as an automobile accident. Your brakes could fail... your alternator could die while you're on the freeway, thereby killing all power... your tire(s) could blow, causing you to swerve (accidentally or negligently?) into another vehicle... etc.

How does one not simply feel the weight of rounds in the magazine before loading? It like triples the weight.
Agreed, unless there were only 1 or 2 rounds in the magazine.

I think the article said this was new york...
York County, not New York. Fort Mill is in South Carolina.


What I found more interesting about the original article was the story of the kid taking his XBOX out of the gun safe and discharging his father's firearm. If you read the article, how can this happen unless the kid actually grabbed the handgun instead of the XBOX while mom wasn't looking? Also, Mom should've taken the XBOX out for him. At least with the officer who was put on probation, he outright states that the gun functioned as it should and that the fault was his.
Semantically, there is a such a thing as an automobile accident. Your brakes could fail... your alternator could die while you're on the freeway, thereby killing all power... your tire(s) could blow, causing you to swerve (accidentally or negligently?) into another vehicle... etc.

What I found more interesting about the original article was the story of the kid taking his XBOX out of the gun safe and discharging his father's firearm. If you read the article, how can this happen unless the kid actually grabbed the handgun instead of the XBOX while mom wasn't looking? Also, Mom should've taken the XBOX out for him. At least with the officer who was put on probation, he outright states that the gun functioned as it should and that the fault was his.
I didn't say accident. Never do.
I didn't say accident. Never do.
I guess I was referring more to the train of thought in that sub-thread... that automobile "accidents" could be considered "negligent" as a comparison to how there are no ADs, just NDs.

It would've been clearer had I elucidated that overall rather than lazily quoted you directly, EvilD. I consider you unquoted. :)
I guess I was referring more to the train of thought in that sub-thread... that automobile "accidents" could be considered "negligent" as a comparison to how there are no ADs, just NDs.

It would've been clearer had I elucidated that overall rather than lazily quoted you directly, EvilD. I consider you unquoted. :)
lol, really, i giggled a bit.
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