Welcome Mgunds1201, If you want it would be greta if you could go over to the Intrductions and tell us a little about yourself. Just you and your Glocks. EnjoySounds like a great day! And that's sad about the first father/son pair. Seems to me like that dad is willing to let his son go through life clueless. And it makes me smile to think that there are some Father out there that understand your child has choices to make and sometimes they aren't what we want(father/son#2). But back to the ricochet WOW must have been a little shocking a real *** moment! But how far was the back stop am what caliber was your roommate shooting?