Glock Firearms banner
1 - 20 of 23 Posts

·
Click Click Boom
Joined
·
45,268 Posts
blackdog said:
My husband says that my Glock 23 is a 1911 format, I say no. Who is right?
YOU.. Lol!
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
1,214 Posts
He couldn't be any further from the truth. The two guns are complete opposites. The only similarities between the two stops at "they're both guns".
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
1,214 Posts
The glock is still based on a John M. Browning design. Maybe that is what he meant.
I don't see how so. I think the general shape is the only thing the Glock is based on. The 1911 is a single action, hammer fired pistol with external safeties and a completely different safety system all together. The Glock is a double action, striker fired pistol with no external safeties (not counting your finger) and has a polymer frame.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
624 Posts
Look it up. I didn't say 1911, I said Browning. I believe Gaston Glock has openly stated as such. I stole this off of WIKI but it is widely published.


The Glock 17 is a 9mm short recoil-operated locked breech semi-automatic pistol that uses a modified Browning cam-lock system adapted from the Hi-Power pistol.[28] The firearm's locking mechanism utilizes a linkless, vertically tilting barrel with a rectangular breech that locks into the ejection port cut-out in the slide. During the recoil stroke, the barrel moves rearward initially locked together with the slide approximately 3 mm (0.12 in) until the bullet leaves the barrel and chamber pressure drops to a safe level. A ramped lug extension at the base of the barrel then interacts with a tapered locking block integrated into the frame, forcing the barrel down and unlocking it from the slide. This camming action terminates the barrel's movement while the slide continues back under recoil, extracting and ejecting the spent cartridge casing. The slide's uninterrupted rearward movement and counter-recoil cycle are characteristic of the Browning system.[29]
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
1,000 Posts
Look it up. I didn't say 1911, I said Browning. I believe Gaston Glock has openly stated as such. I stole this off of WIKI but it is widely published.


The Glock 17 is a 9mm short recoil-operated locked breech semi-automatic pistol that uses a modified Browning cam-lock system adapted from the Hi-Power pistol.[28] The firearm's locking mechanism utilizes a linkless, vertically tilting barrel with a rectangular breech that locks into the ejection port cut-out in the slide. During the recoil stroke, the barrel moves rearward initially locked together with the slide approximately 3 mm (0.12 in) until the bullet leaves the barrel and chamber pressure drops to a safe level. A ramped lug extension at the base of the barrel then interacts with a tapered locking block integrated into the frame, forcing the barrel down and unlocking it from the slide. This camming action terminates the barrel's movement while the slide continues back under recoil, extracting and ejecting the spent cartridge casing. The slide's uninterrupted rearward movement and counter-recoil cycle are characteristic of the Browning system.[29]

I thought the question was about the 1911 in general not Browning himself.

Edit: couldn't you say that all hand guns are based off of his design? Just asking.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
624 Posts
Which is why I said... The glock is still based on a John M. Browning design. Maybe that is what he meant.

And yeah, many designs come from Browning. What can I say, he was smart...like jeopardy smart.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,108 Posts
There's a reason John Browning is known as the father of modern firearms, he had designs well beyond his time, and people continue to use those designs as a base for many new firearms.

As for the Glock being a 1911 platform, well one thing they hold in common is the short recoil system, but nearly every modern pistol uses that system. The short recoil system means that for a short time both the slide and the barrel recoil together for a short time, than seperate, the barrel stops recoiling while the slide continues. So if your husbands arguement is that the 1911 is a short recoil platform and so is the Glock, he is corect. Beyond that the 2 hold VERY little in common. The 1911 is single action, the Glock is double (of sorts), the 1911 has approximately 50 parts, the Glock has 35, the glock is striker fire and the 1911 is a hammer fire, the list of differences goes on and on.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,348 Posts
I thought the question was about the 1911 in general not Browning himself.

Edit: couldn't you say that all hand guns are based off of his design? Just asking.
Most, yes, but not quite all. There's also a direct blowback design, i.e. G25/28 and many other small caliber guns.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
547 Posts
Might I suggest a drug test???:rolleyes:
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
1,000 Posts
Most, yes, but not quite all. There's also a direct blowback design, i.e. G25/28 and many other small caliber guns.
An the desert eagle uses a gas system to operate with a rotating bolt like the AR design.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
1,810 Posts
While I do think JMB was a genius in the firearms industry I fail to see many similarities between his 1911a1 design and the Glock design.
Totally different lock up(1911 uses multiple lugs within the slide, Glock uses a single lug on the barrel that locks up on the front of the ejection port) different links(1911 uses an actual link, Glock is different) totally different trigger systems.
Other then them both being handguns that's about it.
 

·
Because 2 Are Better Then 1
Joined
·
10,292 Posts
J-Will said:
He is 100% correct... IF you are rocking one of these ;)
Is this the result of a one night stand? :0
 
1 - 20 of 23 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top